Talk:King's Champion

Gainsaid

"gainsaid"? What does that mean? --AW 22:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

"to gainsay": to contradict, deny to oppose. ANB (talk) 00:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Dymoke death - he's not Dead yet!

It appears the current champion died on March 21 2015.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11512352/Lieutenant-Colonel-John-Dymoke-Queens-Champion-obituary.html --Philippe23 (talk) 00:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

The only point I can find on his son taking over the role is this, which does not necessarily look like a WP:RS, and is likely derived from the information in this Wikipedia article. TJRC (talk) 01:01, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Ignore me. I'm an idiot. Confused "John Lindley Marmion Dymoke" (who the obituary is for, and the previous champion) with the current Champion "Francis John Fane Marmion Dymoke". "John ... Marmion Dymoke" is all my brain saw. --Philippe23 (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

References

Henry VIII Champion

I found a contradiction in that the source I was using states clearly that Henry VIII's champion was Sir Robert Dymoke, contradicting an equally sourced item earlier on in the article saying it was John II Walshe. I am not sure which one to use. --ScottishNardualElf (talk) 00:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

The King/Queen's champion has been a Dymoke since the 1370's when Sir John Dymoke married Lady Margaret Ludlow who owned the manor of Scrivelsby, Lincs. (On Philip Marmion's death without male issue in 1291, the manor of Scrivelsby was the inheritance of Philip Marmion's daughter Jane, by his second wife, and descended to her granddaughter, Margaret Ludlow, who married John Dymoke about 1350). Sir Robert Dymoke was actually the champion at Richard III, Henry VII and Henry VIII's coronations.

see amongst other sources Scrivelsby, the home of the champions : with some account of the Marmion and Dymoke families [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.

Original data:Lodge, Samuel,. Scrivelsby, the home of the champions : with some account of the Marmion and Dymoke families. London: E. Stock, 1894. 213.31.28.203 (talk) 21:50, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Coronation of Charles III

"He will gain the title of King's Champion at the coronation of Charles III." Just to make sure, did this happen? J S Ayer (talk) 03:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

It did!

Could someone update the page, please (I am useless at "formatting"), please, with Francis Dymoke, Esquire, the 35th Champion?

Thank you. Horatio the Younger (talk) 05:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)