Talk:Kais Nashef

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Is Nashef Palestinian?[edit]

The source brought, http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-03-02-paradise-now_x.htm, refers to Nashef as an Arab Israeli who plays the role of a Palestinian in the movie. It refers to the movie's producer as "a Palestinian born in the Israeli town of Nazareth". As the source contradicts the text, if another source cannot be brought, the article will need to be corrected. -- Avi (talk) 22:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Higson, Rosalie (August 4, 2005). "The challenges of a movie suicide bomber". The Australian. p. 6. A sympathetic portrayal of a suicide bomber is possibly the most contentious role an actor could take on. But Palestinian actor Kais Nashef, who played the lead in Paradise Now, doesn't see it that way.
Partridge, Des (July 27, 2005). The Courier Mail (Queensland, Australia). p. 9. The final 15 in the competition are being judged by a panel including festival guests, film critic and cult writer Jack Sargeant and Palestinian actor Kais Nashef (who stars in the suicide bomber drama Paradise Now screening on Friday night). {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help); Text "A double take for film festival fans" ignored (help)
MacAskill, Ewen (February 12, 2005). "Film portrays 'human face' of suicide bombers". The Guardian. p. 19. Childhood friends Khaled and Said, played by actors from the Palestinian theatre circuit, Kais Nashef and Ali Suleiman

These are all available on Lexis-Nexis, let me know if you would like me to email you the full text of any of these. More results from a general search could yield more but these should suffice. nableezy - 23:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- The Guardian reference just means that the actors play in Palestinian films, they could be Norwegian for all we would know, but I agree that the Courier Mail and Australian references are sufficient. Can you adjust the source in the article, please? -- Avi (talk) 23:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. This article is terrible though. That is the only referenced piece in the whole thing. I cant find much to support the biographical information, such as location of birth or even year of birth. nableezy - 00:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Many biographical stubs are that way, sadly. -- Avi (talk) 04:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avi, in your edit you write that Nashef is an "Israeli Arab Palestinian". That seems a bit awkward. Also, there is a bit of a controversy surrounding what to call Israel's Arab citizens with many of them objecting to the term "Israeli Arab". I would prefer we said "Palestinian citizen of Israel" or "Palestinian actor who is a citizen of Israel". Objections? The citizen of Israel link is also repeated in the article. nableezy - 20:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion going on at Talk:Palestinian people#The relationship between Israeli Arab and Palestinian, if you could weigh in there and help clarify the issue that would be great. As for Nashef, is there reason to believe he does not want to be called Israeli? He is. Perhaps "Israeli-Palestinian" or "Palestinian-Israeli" would be appropriate similar to the ubiquitous "XXXXXXX-American" that is everywhere? -- Avi (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality is what passport the subject holds. As an Israeli, his nationality is Israeli, not Israeli Arab (which would be ethnicity) or Palestinian. 🔯 Sir Joseph ^🍸(talk) 16:10, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thats nice that you feel that way, but nationality has multiple meanings. It says his citizenship is Israeli. Its also nice that you saw fit to revert a years long consensus. nableezy - 17:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hebrew[edit]

That was added by an IP to the article without justification. The justification of Sir Joseph is he lives in Israel. Ok, so what? Arabic is an official language of Israel as well. How is the Hebrew transliteration of an Arabic name relevant to the English Wikipedia? nableezy - 17:06, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's his name in Hebrew. Simple as that. He lives in Israel and is an actor so that is his name in Hebrew. Not everything needs to be a conflict. 🔯 Sir Joseph ^🍸(talk) 17:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That is not in any way a response to what I wrote. Everybody on this planet has a transliteration of their name in Hebrew. Where we put that in an encyclopedia article is where it is relevant. Meaning, where the name is related to Hebrew. Here we have an Arab person who is a citizen of a country that has Arabic as their official language and has an Arabic name. So we include the Arabic. Benjamin Netanyahu doesnt have the Arabic transliteration of his name in the article, even though he is the head of government of a country with Arabic as its official language. Thats because his name has nothing to do with Arabic, and including the Arabic has no encyclopedia purpose. We dont include an unrelated language for, well you didnt actually give a reason, so Im not sure how to describe your comment, but Ill go with random set of words attempting to be a reason. Im removing it once more as irrelevant as you cannot give a reason why it should be included. nableezy - 17:18, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and things generally become confrontational when you hound somebody's contributions to revert them on pages youve never edited before. nableezy - 17:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]