Talk:Kaci Kullmann Five

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what about kaci, the pop-star? i'd like to see some info on her. --84.47.62.199 19:35, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name indeed does sound (read) like a swing band, something that used to be pointed out in the Scandinavian media back in the days when she was the leader of her party. ;) Kullmann is a family name too, of course, and double family names from birth are very rare in Norway and Sweden. 83.254.154.164 (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She did not have a double (family) name, and having both a middle name and a family name is very common in Scandinavia (Kullmann was her middle name after she married). --Bjerrebæk (talk) 21:04, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Surname[edit]

As pointed out above, her surname after she married was "Five", not "Kullmann Five". --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See here, under "F". --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:12, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Forbes also refer to her as "Five". --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kaci Kullman Five's name has aways been regulated by the Norwegian act of names (link to navneloven here). It is and have been since 1923 illegal to have a double surname where the separate surnames are not linked with a hyphen. Two surnames linked with a hyphen have been very rare, but since 2002 the regulations are eased and it has become easier to chose two surnames connected with a hyphen. In Norway you are obliged to have one first name and one surname/last name. You can also have several of each. In addition you can have a middle name which is used by other people as a surname. The only difference between a middle name and a first name is that you do not have a free choice of surnames to adopt as a middle name (see § 8 and § 9). Otherwise for all practical purposes the middle name is the same as a first name. It has for many years been very common for women to change their last name when they marry and adopt the husbands last name. It has also been increasingly common for women who changed their last name/surname when they married to keep their previous surname as a middle (i.e. first) name. Kaci Kullman Five was traditional in this respect. There is no doubt that her last name have been Five since she married and that her last name was Kullman before she married. It has never been legally possible for her to adopt "Kullman Five" as a double surname without hyphen and before 2002 she would not have been allowed to chose "Kullman-Five" as surname. --ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 20:21, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying. That's pretty much what I thought. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:52, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This affected almost all the articles about her world wide (almost all the sort changes was corrected by yesterday except for Polish, which I changed just now) and I thought it best to post a sourced explanation in English, just in case the misunderstanding reappeared. --ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 21:06, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]