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UPN & KJZZ[edit]

The statement about reasons UPN gave for dropping KJZZ are not as wirtten in this entry. I point out this article in variety detailing the true reason to the situation:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117788177?categoryid=18&cs=1&s=h&p=0

There was never any statement from UPN saying "KJZZ is racist" and indeed, if one looks at the facts, it is clear the situation was over monetary compensation.

TruthCrusader


The reasons for the affiliate change are cited in the above link. The article, as previously written, states that the reason was "racism" yet, according to the article detailing the situation, this was not the case. You cannot make such a claim in Wikipedia without backing it up with a source. Certain types of racism are obvious: The KKK, Nation of Islam, etc etc. However, this is nowhere near such a situation. And the sexual harrassment cite, first off has NO accompanying source cite and, in my opinion, has nothing to do with the article, which is supposed to be about the station. I am sure people are fired from Microsoft and Ford and GM all the time for 'sexual harrassment' but that does not mean Wikipedia has to catalog them with the entires for said companies.

TruthCrusader

Ok, lets not get into a revert war guys. Let's discuss these changes. [[User:JonMoore|— —JonMoore 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 18:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


At the moment there seem to be evidence and argument on only one side; is there anything on the other side? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:17, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
See the second source listed for the article regarding KJZZ, the station that KPNZ replaced as UPN affiliate for the SLC television market. A little research could have gone a long way before a certain user who is engaging in a campaign of harassment by contesting any article I have contributed to (as well as flooding me with e-mail) decided to insert his uninformed opinions regarding a television market that he has never lived in. Chadbryant 00:45, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]


No one is harrassing you. No one is following every article you write. If you cannot deal with critiques of your entries as an adult than I am sorry. The source article from variety makes no mention of 'racism'. That is subjective. The main points listed for the affilliate change were many, and to just declare that the sole reason was, in your view, 'racism' is not correct.

I also again question the validity of the sexual harrassment line, as it has nothing to do with the entry, which is supposed to be about KPNZ the 'channel'.

TruthCrusader

<perspective>Chadbryant has been subjected to a campaign of harrassment; he is, however, being somewhat unrasonable on the subject of TruthCrusader, to whom he behaves aggressively and very much out of keeping with Wikipedia policy when TruthCrusader is simply behaving as a normal, responsible editor. That has to stop.</perspective> --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Normal, responsible editors do research or have a working knowledge of a subject before they edit an article that pertains to it. Normal, responsible editors also don't send harassing pseudo-anonymous e-mails. I have dealt with Mr. Signorelli's harassment and illegal abuse for many years because of my successful actions in having him removed from various providers for flagrant abuse - his entire presence here (first as ChadBryant, now as TruthCrusader) is based around harassing me, while playing the "victim".
For the record, I did not insert the "KJZZ is racist" content into the article that *I* created - it was inserted later by a different editor. Chadbryant 21:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible that TruthCrusader is who you say he is. If so, however, he's done nothing here that's anything like the various sockpuppets who were attacking you — yet you've treated him as though he's behaving in precisely the same way. Indeed, what I've seen of his editing here is unexceptionable, while your behaviour is beginning to look paranoid and disruptive. Do you really want to alienate the people who have been helping to protect you from harrassment?

If you have genuine proof that TruthCrusader is harrassing you via e-mail, then take it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents (though make sure that it is harrassment, not just unwanted e-mails). Unless he misbehaves on Wikipedia, though, you need to stop acting as though he is, and collaborate in the editing process. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Citing sources[edit]

There have been a number of edits of late to this page regarding some misdealings or some sort. The problem lies with these users not citing any sources with these changes. WP:CITE! This is important when dealing with these sorts of matters as wikipedia and posible the editors might be held legally liable if this information is wrong. I have done some searching and the only sources I can find on this topic are broadcasting industry news groups, nothing I would count as a primary source. Does anyone have any citable sources for all of this? Even case numbers or arrest reports will work great. --A 22:59, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They have none. The users inserting such information are doing so only to satisfy their own personal agenda. TruthCrusader 15:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there are. By checking the Utah District Attorney's website (http://www.districtattorney.slco.org/) you can type in the names of those people attached to the case and pull up their current cases. Since the filing, the case against Gentry has been dropped, but the charges against Dunn and Brewer are still in court. It is actual news which was covered by the NBC and CBS stations in Salt Lake City. It was also reported on in the Salt Lake Tribune and Deseret News, the two major papers in Utah. I have reposted the article myself, with come changes to the information to make it more up-to-date. If needed, names and phone numbers of former employees can be provided to confirm what has happened, as well as getting video records from the news stations who reported on the incident. As far as taking it down goes, I view that as someone trying to wash out a really big stain. It's obvious something odd was going on over there, though we may never know the real truth. In any case, it was a real occurance with real results and several sources reporting on it and backing it up with documentation. To delete it would be biased, especially when it had a major effect on the station. I'm willing to say it was one of the bigger reasons KPNZ lost the CW fight. --RandomUser--

== 7/3/06 Update == Charges against Gentry have been dropped, charges against Dunn have been dismissed, Brewer still fighting. All info has been updated, including rewording and the addition of a rewritten article that ran in the Salt Lake Tribune of July 2005, listing the speculation and rumors revolving around the arrests, but ending on the fact that the real story may never be known. Pending the results of what happens to Brewer, I believe we can put a rest to the debate of the "Legal Battles" section and leave it alone. --RandomUser--

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