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Nickname

On the Seven Sisters disambiguation page it says that in Italian football, the Seven Sisters refer to the seven largest clubs in Serie A: AC Milan, Internazionale, SS Lazio, Fiorentina, Juventus, Parma AC and AS Roma who traditionally take up the first seven positions in Serie A.

I've read somewhere that the nickname 'Old Lady' derived from the fact that Juventus is the oldest of the seven clubs. Could someone verify his. There's no mention of this in the nickname section. -- BestEditorEver 06:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, the Seven Sisters definition started to be used by the Italian media in the late 1990s, and now is no longer used after Fiorentina's cancellation in 2002 and Parma's recent financial troubles (and Parma were promoted first to Serie A only in the early 1990s, so they have no top-flight tradition at all until then). As the Old Lady nickname has been used since much earlier, I don't think this is the right reason. I don't really know why the club is so called, in any case, and I didn't find anything interesting from a quick search on the web. --Angelo 08:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
That would explain why it's not in the article. Thanks. -- BestEditorEver 11:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That isn't the reason for the Old Lady nickname... I'll cut and paste the reply I gave from the archives when this was asked before;

The "Old Lady" is a nickname they've had since the 1930s.
Before that they just had the Lady part (Signora in Italian, Madama in Piemontese), from what I gather it was used in the same way as a man may refer to his car affectionatly as "she". And obviously it ties in with Juventus' other nickname as the girlfriend of Italy, because since the 1920s lots of workers from the South of the country came North to work in the Agnelli families Fiat factory and supported the club, so refering to the club like it was a woman wasn't anything new.
The "Old" part refers to the age of many major star players at the time in the 1930s Luis Monti, Umberto Caligaris, Raimundo Orsi, Virginio Rosetta, etc were all around 33/32 years old while with the club at the same time. Its a pun in a sense, because the word Juventus means "youth". Hope that clarifies somewhat. - The Daddy 14:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. That resolves my question. -- BestEditorEver 16:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Fidanzata technically means fiancee --Carpediem33880 (talk) 00:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Lead section

It is 5 paragraphs long: 1 over WP:LEAD's max. --M4gnum0n (talk) 19:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Stadio delle Alpi

Someone with solid source based information should include the newly proposed stadium plans (as of early 2008 if i'm not mistaken), the Delle Alpi page on the UK wikipedia doesn't have any information included about it either and is in serious need of an update. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.59.70 (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Juventus managerial list is wrong

Can somebody help me to correct the list of Juventus managers? At the moment it contains a lot of mistakes (for example, Viola never managed Juventus in the 1928-29 season, because at that time he was an Inter manager; Munerati managed the team only in the 1940-41 season - replacing Caligaris, who died during the championship - ; it faults also the management Ferrari-Monti in the 1941-42 season). Unfortunately, I can't edit directly the article, because I'm a new en.wiki user and I made only a few edits. You can use as reference for the list this site instead of the wrong one. Thanks in advance. --Mess (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: Let's correct also the relative template, of course. --Mess (talk) 08:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 Done, but i can't change the template, sorry. --Dantetheperuvian (talk) 00:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Dante ;-) --Mess (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I tried changing the template list also could'nt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.195.48 (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Football Club Infobox

I have repaired the infobox details but the original link to the crest is failing.

Can someone with more experiance fix this?194.74.237.82 (talk) 08:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Horrible Sentence

How in the hell is this listed as a good article with a sentence like this?

"Founded in 1897 as Sport Club Juventus by a group of Torinese young students[3] and linked to industrial Agnelli family since 1923, the club has become a symbol of Italian culture and italianità (Italianity),[6][7][8] reflected, among others, in its contribution to the national team, uninterrupted since the second half of 1920s and recognised as one of the largest and most important in the world,[9] and, due to ideological politics and socio-economic origin of the club's sympathisers[10] and their massive presence of all over the country and, abroad, mainly in countries with a significant presence of Italian immigrants, through its fan base, larger than any other Italian club and one of the largest world-wide.[11][12]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.130.119.38 (talk) 06:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done Noted; necessary changes made. Azzurro2882 (talk) 04:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Current

Someone needs to edit the Coach for the 2010-11 season, its not Del Neri anymore, but its officially Antonio Conte — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.133.12.85 (talk) 11:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not good at Wiki, but can someone add one of those links to their current season in the top right corner, Juventus F.C. 2007-08 season? ~agiamba —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.81.212.123 (talk) 06:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

the new 08-09 kits have released. when will they update on the page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scorpi01o23 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC) They will soon...i think ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.195.48 (talk) 21:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Ferrara is no longer *caretaker* manager —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.184.18.227 (talk) 08:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from 182.239.190.173, 17 June 2011

In the current squad for Juventus FC the club has announced 3 new signings

Andrea Pirlo from AC Milan Reto Ziegler from Sampdoria Michele Pazienza from Napoli

none of them have been assigned a number yet. Please add this information

If you check the Juventus FC official website they will tell you all 3 names.

182.239.190.173 (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - a link to the where it says this on the website would help. Avicennasis @ 17:15, 16 Sivan 5771 / 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Every team?

Could the phrasing in "they are the only Italian club that has contributed players to every Italian national team since the 2nd FIFA World Cup" be reworded. What I think the cited source shows is that they provided players for each squad that made the finals, certainly not provided players for each and every match that the Italians have played since 1934, unless I'm mistaken? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.60.141 (talk) 17:13, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Kits

Can someone please add these new kits Pink: http://www.google.com.mt/imgres?imgurl=http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/New-Juventus-Kit-11-12-Away.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.footballkitnews.com/2712/new-juventus-kit-11-12-away-pink-star-nike/&usg=__VkiQPlrILfP4XGr0GNOcYLuHBGQ=&h=586&w=543&sz=35&hl=mt&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=F_n6EqL9kK_euM:&tbnh=142&tbnw=118&ei=fboiTsGLHIvusgaBnfSwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djuve%2Bpink%2Bkit%26hl%3Dmt%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D621%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=320&vpy=299&dur=496&hovh=233&hovw=216&tx=127&ty=222&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0&biw=1024&bih=621

Black and white : http://www.google.com.mt/imgres?imgurl=http://www.soccerbible.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/football-shirts.Juventus.Juve_5F00_Hm_5F00_1112/Juve_5F00_Hm1112_5F00_main.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.soccerbible.com/news/football-shirts/archive/2011/07/06/juventus-home-shirt-2011-2012-nike-football-kit.aspx&usg=__xSHDqDJ36F6KiNSf3zIMklSB9iw=&h=505&w=530&sz=117&hl=mt&start=79&zoom=1&tbnid=-dEN0IxLChxzVM:&tbnh=153&tbnw=185&ei=yLoiTtzwJYXtsgbUkuiMCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djuve%2Bhomekit%2B2012%26hl%3Dmt%26sa%3DG%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D621%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=614&page=7&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:79&tx=81&ty=56&biw=1024&bih=621 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puki82795 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 26xbing, 6 September 2011

26xbing (talk) 04:22, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Juventus are or Juventus is?

I'd ask you a clarification. I often saw the plural form for Juventus. In fact, usually in English newspaper I am used to read "Juventus are...". It seems to me that there are no other football team for what plural form is used. Is there any reason? Is this related to the final -s? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panta1978 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Conte still the head coach?

Antonio Conte has obviously been banned for the rest of the season (10 months), so wouldn't it be correct to change the head coach to Massimo Carrera, who has been his temporary replacement? --MrEskola (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Conte is still the head coach according Lega Serie A and UEFA, Carrera is just his assistant.--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 02:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for clarification. What about Angelo Alessio, what happened to his role at the club? Shouldn't we mention that Carrera is de facto the caretaker manager? --MrEskola (talk) 21:43, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Conte is still head coach and Alessio his assistant, but they were both disqualified in the match fixing trial (together with fellow assistant Cristian Stellini, who instead left his job at Juventus); the appointment of Carrera, technical collaborator who was already working at Juventus before Conte's appointment, can be explained by the fact he is the most prominent member of the non-playing staff who is in possession of the required coaching badges (Uefa Pro licence). Still, he must be regarded as a simple caretaker for the time of Conte's ban. Angelo (talk) 12:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I understand. Thanks for that information, helped me out. --MrEskola (talk) 13:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 January 2013

Please change this text: "Frenchman Michel Platini was also awarded the European Footballer of the Year title for three years in a row; 1983, 1984 and 1985, which is a record." (History, European Stage, second paragraph) to "Frenchman Michel Platini was also awarded the European Footballer of the Year title for three years in a row; 1983, 1984 and 1985, which remained a record until 2012 when it was broken by Argentinian Lionel Messi." because Michel Platini no longer holds the record.

Source: http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/media/newsid=1981449/index.html 24.212.225.156 (talk) 08:15, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Not done: The sentence you have submitted isn't right. Michel Platini was awarded with a record 3 Ballon d'Or (or European Footballer of the Year) toghether with Cruyff and Van Basten because Ballon d'Or in 2010 merged with FIFA World Player of the Year award to create FIFA Ballon d'Or. The two Ballon d'Or aren't comparable because until 1995 an eligible player had to be European and had to play in a European Club (so excluding Pelé and Maradona) and because until 2007 the voters was only European sport journalists. For this reason Messi won the last Ballon d'Or of 2009 and all (3) the FIFA Ballon d'Or awarded. Pippo skaio (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Horrible sentence (still)

"they are managed by the industrial Agnelli family since 1923," should read "they have been managed..." --95.23.105.74 (talk) 20:12, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2015

Hallo,

all I do need is to add icons to the trophies that Juventus already won, like those icons of the trophies in the Lazio page.

If you can add them I will really appreciate that.

Thank you in advance.

Amedio1897 (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Added. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 22:37, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Rivalries

They also have rivalries with SSC Napoli.--Dipralb (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 11:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2015

First off, thank you so much for the logos that you already added to the Juventus trophies that I had requested.

And here are the remaining trophies logos from other pages on Wikipedia. Please add those pictures to Juventus trophy cabinet.

Uefa Champions League -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/UEFA_-_Champions_League.png

Uefa Europa League -

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UEFA_Cup_%28adjusted%29.png

Uefa Intertoto Cup -

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:UEFA-Intertoto-Cup.png

Intercontinental Cup (Toyota Cup) -

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ToyotaCupTrophy.svg

Amedio1897 (talk) 11:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Amedio1897 No problem, however only the UEFA EUROPA LEAGUE trophy and the INTERCONTINETAL trophy works. The CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and the INTERTOTO trophies do not take me to the same page the other two do, which does not let me use the picture file to add. If you want these added you must find the wiki page in English that takes me to a similar formatted page like the europa league trophy so I can use the picture file. Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 12:31, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

They were deleted by User:Qed237. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 12:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
I removed them because I doont think they are allowed and should not be used on these kind of lists. I asked for input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football to see if I am right or wrong. Qed237 (talk) 12:49, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough, at least you are asking for more input. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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Juventus' History in Serie A, Coppa Italia, and European cups

Is there a section in these pages that details Juventus' history by year for each of the above categories? For example, take the Champions' League (and old European Cup). I there a list, by year, of what Juventus did, where it got eliminated etc etc.? Same for Serie A, a list of where it placed every year. Does all this exist, and if not, where is the best place for it? Juve2000 (talk) 23:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

We do have an un-finished page of List of Juventus F.C. seasons that needs help to get it done as soon as possible.Troubleo.WS 🍁 Talk 01:55, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

@Juve2000: ^^^ A little late, but there it is. ^^^ Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:13, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Partner and Sponsors

How about add a current official partners/sponsors list (sheet) under the Financial information section? By indicating reference pages (if possible) with starting dates. Troubleo.WS 🍁 Talk 01:53, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, we do have "Shirt sponsors and manufacturers". Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes. But I only see the shirt and kit sponsors. No info about partners, such as Samsung, Balocco, Randsstad, Goodyear, Sky, Hublot and etc. Is it not necessary? By the way, does it need to clean up out-of-date talks? I did some already. If no needed to do that, have to undo. Troubleo.WS 🍁 Talk 02:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, looking at other big clubs like Man city, Bayern, Real Madrid etc., it doesn't seem to be convention. Manchester United F.C. sort of has a section like that though. I don't really know. With regards to the talk page, I don't think cleaning up out of date threads is an issue. If someone else finds it an issue, they can revert it if they feel the need. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Agreed. I looked at several other clubs' pages. I can't remember where I saw a big club having a list of partners. But it true that it would look like an advertisement. Troubleo.WS 🍁 Talk 02:33, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, exactly. It probably isn't necessary. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

J-Village & J-Medical

As new name of project Continassa, J-Village had been officially released at 16th October. Perhaps we can update something to this page. See the reference here

Also J-Medical had opened on March 23, 2016.

Troubleo.WStalk 03:07, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't be opposed to that. It doesn't seem to fit under any existing sections though I believe. Maybe make a new section for it? I don't know what you would title it though... Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:14, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps we can put it under Stadiums mentioning it since they are part of facilities of Stadium currently but are under expanding construction. Or I can create a new article of "J-Village" first, writing contents, then give the link under the title of Stadiums. How about it? Troubleo.WStalk 14:24, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Well it probably doesn't permit to have its own article, but I like the idea of putting it under the stadiums section, and maybe re title it "Stadiums and facilitates". Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 15:45, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Club officials and Staffs

Probably we can create a sort list of board directors, officials and staffs below Presidential History. I saw some other big clubs having it under. i.e Man Utd Club Officials Troubleo.WS 🍁 Talk 02:52, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

There is a List of Juventus F.C. managers page, but I know that is only managers. There is a List of Italian football club owners page as well (all of Serie A however). Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 02:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
The problem with having a section like that is that it is very hard to keep up to date with minimal info on when smaller roles change personnel. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:01, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Poor English

"Juventus is historically the most successful club in Italian football and one of the most laureated and important globally."

"Historically" has no meaning. The sentence means the same without it. The reader supposes that the article refers to past but not future achievements.

I am a native British English speaker and I have never before seen "laureated". If it exists, it is not everyday English. If it exists, it nonetheless reads unpleasantly.

Good luck!

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You're right, removed historically and changed laureated to awarded as that's basically a synonym. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:49, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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Juventus struggles in UEFA Champions League

I think it should be added somewhere in the text that Juventus have historically struggled in the European Cup/UEFA Champions League having won two times and lost six times, if you compare to the success they have enjoyed in Serie A.--RafaelS1979 (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

This is not a blog and league system tournament is not related with a KO competition for any RO. Thanks.--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

New crest

Please, put the new Juventus' crest in the infobox. Last season is over and so is the old crest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.96.124 (talk) 21:33, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

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