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Why doesn't this article mention that when she was head of the Vine Restaurant in Downtown Manhattan she was trying to charge the firemen and policemen money for water and food on 9-11 before the Company stepped in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.201.35.66 (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Disruptive Edit Erases[edit]

I would kindly request users Sportsman9830, Jschwartz533, Veritas411 and Nygiants212300, or any other users, stop erasing the edits I have made to Julie Menin's page. All of the edits are relevant to the page, and I tried my best not to interrupt the continuity of the article (i.e. putting the controversy section directly after 2013 election section, etc.).

I resent being accused of "vandalism" by Sportsman9830. While, yes, the comments don't praise Julie Menin, as does the rest of her page, you must understand that this is not a privately owned website, where you can vet and script every piece of information that is posted about Julie Menin. This is a public domain, and the public deserves to get the full, truthful picture of any candidate (including Jessica Lappin, Robert Jackson, and Gale Brewer). I am not simply posting random bits of defamatory information. While, yes, I have made edits to Jessica Lappin's page as Sportsman9830 mentioned, I have also made edits to Brad Hoylman, Daniel O'Donnell, Didi Barrett, and the New York State Assembly and State Senate pages previously as well. And I will, most likely, continue to make edits to Menin, Lappin, Jackson and Brewer's pages as the race continues, because I am very knowledgeable about New York politics.

If you have any comments, please feel free to share. Thanks Maxx Attaxx (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked editors at the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard to bring some extra eyes here. At first glance, your edits seem reasonably well sourced and not unduly negative. There seems to be a whole army of single-purpose accounts reverting them with no edit summary. As usual in these cases, a specific "Controversy" heading is probably less preferable than a more neutral one, or even better, simply working the material into the "2013 election" section. That election section ought to come in chronological order in the article, not right after the lede. But that's just a suggestion. Voceditenore (talk) 17:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that once again, a single purpose account, has reverted that content completely with no edit summary and no explanation or discussion here on the talk page. This is the third time, he/she has done this in the last 10 days [1], [2], [3]. (I have left a message concerning this on the editor's talk page [4].)

I have added one sentence at the end of the 2013 section which is simply a neutral statement of her party affiliations between 2002 and 2003:

According to the New York Post, Menin had switched from the Democratic Party to the Independence Party in February 2002 before switching to the Republican Party in March of that year. She rejoined the Democratic Party in March 2003.

It is referenced to a reliable source, one for which Menin herself has written articles. I have also moved the 2013 election section to the last part of her biography, observing chronological order. This is an encyclopedia article, not an election manifesto. It doesn't belong at the very start of the article, nor is this local election what she is primarily known for. I think the extensive list of her endorsements is excessive and gives undue weight to this section of the biography, but have left it in. Voceditenore (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the revision. All the endorsements left in still makes it seem slightly biased, but oh well. Thanks for your help! Maxx Attaxx (talk) 20:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Awards section[edit]

If there is to be an entirely separate section for "Awards" with each one highlighted by a bullet point, then each one needs verification by an inline citation to a reliable source which is independent of the article's subject, i.e., not her official biographies/profiles. Accordingly, I have marked several of them with [citation needed]. Voceditenore (talk) 09:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commissioner of Consumer Affairs[edit]

Can someone add a section and update the right column to reflect that Menin was appointed Commissioner of Consumer Affairs by Mayor DeBlasio in May 2014?

Her official bio can be found here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dca/html/about/bio.shtml

Maybe that source can be used to update her page with some of the awards and mention her Vine restaurant? There is additional information to be found in that bio as well.

Andrew 184.74.213.58 (talk) 19:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed 1[edit]

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  • Note The above copyright violations involved the entire former section Commissioner of the NYC Department of Consumer Affairs. In addition, that section was also entirely unreferenced, which constitutes plagiarism as well as copyvio. It also contained inappropriate puffery and claims e.g. "unprecedented". This section needs to be rewritten entirely if re-added, using neutral language, in your own words and impeccably referenced. Claims such as "dramatic" and "unprecedented", if used at all, must be referenced to third party sources, entirely independent of Ms. Menin's office and press releases. Voceditenore (talk) 13:04, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverted[edit]

I made and then reverted updates because I wanted additional citations to verify the validity of the edits. Will adjust again when I have more solid citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpilatow (talk • contribs) 13:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mpilatow, had you not reverted yourself, I would have reverted you. Your "updated" version [5] was blatant PR and cribbed virtually verbatim from Menin's official NYC biography. Also, if you have any connection to Ms. Menin whatsoever, either personal or professional, you need to read WP:COI for guidance on editing under those circumstances and follow it scrupulously, particularly this section and this one if they apply. Voceditenore (talk) 16:32, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest[edit]

This article has a long history of COI concerns. Maybe many editors, maybe just the one. There's also obvious socks or/and meatpuppets, e.g. the SPA editor Special:Contributions/JGG12345 is obviously the same as the SPA Special:Contributions/Jgwikieditor, (nice initials, J.G.!) and also maybe/probably also the SPAs Special:Contributions/Phillytv215queen, Special:Contributions/Veritas411, Special:Contributions/FactChecker212, Special:Contributions/Editmaster212 (all love using the sandbox to practice for a bit prior to coming to this page) and maybe even singleton Special:Contributions/Rrnyc24.

Whether these registered accounts (always too stale to launch an SPI) are the same, is mostly irrelevant, but presumably the quick undoing or/and talk page warnings were effective as now JG, who last week made this edit which, strikingly, makes it a point that she graduated "magna cum laude" the first sentence of her career, then decided to log out and made this edit (forgot to go on the sandbox first and thus malformed the footnote) as Special:Contributions/50.202.152.234.

This is more significant as a COI than just the plain sock/meat puppeting, as 50.202.152.234 made an edit five prior in which they identified themselves in edit summary as "I work for Crescent Heights", which is significant because... Crescent Heights (company) is founded by Bruce Menin and still works there as a high level executive (whatever a "managing principal" does). Bruce Menin, of course, is the husband of Julie Menin, the subject of this article. It seems to me, that editor(s) who continually add puffery to this article do so at behest of one of the Menins, perhaps paid too. Either way, the notice ought to stay up until this pattern of behavior is confirmed to have ceased. JesseRafe (talk) 18:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, tags like {{COI}} should not be used as a "badge of shame" if the current state of the article reflects a neutral point of view. However, in this case, I tend to agree with JesseRafe on keeping it on the article until the clearly promotional editing ceases altogether. This has been an ongoing problem with this article since 2008, with multiple instances of the addition of blatant copyright violations and blatantly promotional text by multiple single purpose accounts and IPs who are clearly closely associated with the subject and/or indulging in undeclared paid editing on their behalf. Enough! Voceditenore (talk) 10:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. As an update, the latest edit, while much more inline with a good contribution was by a user, user:HippocratesNewYork, who already has a COI notice on their talk page and a followup suggesting they might be a paid contributor, and to further suggest the above allegations still hold, re-inserted the unnecessary magna cum laude bit. I believe it is very likely they were explicitly directed by the Menins or their agents to edit the page thusly based on the preponderance of the factors, but if this is their only addition to the page will not pursue any other actions, and of course, hold that the hatnote should remain. JesseRafe (talk) 17:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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