Talk:Joan Faber McAlister

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Primary sources[edit]

The references all seem to be to primary sources – either works the subject wrote herself or institutions to which she is directly connected (ie: her employer, Drake University, and the journal she edited, Women's Studies in Communication). Reliable secondary sources would be more objective while also demonstrating notability. Some specific issues:

The named references "DrakeBio", "DrakeEditor" and "NowRetreat" note her degrees but not their specialties, "emphasis", special certificates or the years she earned them. This should be cited or removed.
Some of the sources apparently need a subscription which make them difficult to verify. Subscription information should be added in the citation template(s). Consider also archiving these to an openly accessible site.
There are still tone issues in the article, but it's difficult to fix without access to the sources.

Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. I hope this is of help. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Discussion[edit]

Delete I didn't propose this deletion, but I support it for all the reasons listed in the maintenance tag. This article reads like PR and I've tried unsuccessfully to find any good sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Just Another Cringy Username (talk • contribs) 22:29, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Just Another Cringy Username, you'll want to leave that comment on the deletion discussion page here: [1]. -- asilvering (talk) 03:28, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Scholarly work[edit]

The Scholarly work section has been a topic of concern at the AfD and elsewhere in this talk page. I propose cutting down to a short overview paragraph, sourced to the interview with Drake Newsroom. That sourcing is still not the best, but at least is secondary to the articles. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:18, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it! It's fine to use the scholarly articles as evidence for her scholarly work, though. The issue is more that these articles were selected kind of at random to fulfil the requirements of the students' assignment, rather than because they usefully have something to say about McAlister's work as a whole. The way this article is framed now, it looks like these are her three major works or are otherwise extremely important. -- asilvering (talk) 20:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]