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Social organisation template problem[edit]

This is the data, but the template used omits the offspring. Anyone capable of fixing this?

Cycle A (Phratry)	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Chungalee	Chimitcha)	Taralee
Chula	Chuna	Tanagree
Taralee	Chemara	Chula
Tungaree	Champina	Chingaree
Cycle B (Phratry)	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Chimitcha	Chungalee	Champina
Chuna	Chula	Chemara
Champina	Tangaree	Chuna
Chimara	Taralee	Chimitcha

Nishidani (talk) 11:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Divisions of the Jingili tribe^[1]
Phratry	Section of Parents		Section of Offspring
Phratry	Wife	Husband	Offspring
Cycle A	Chungalee Chula Taralee Tungaree	Chimitcha Chuna Chemara Champina	Taralee Tanagree Chula Chingaree
Cycle B	Chimicha Chuna Champina Chimara	Chungalee Chula Tangaree Taralee	Champina Chemara Chuna Chimitcha

Nishidani, This (above) might be what you want. It is a bit hard to tell. Cheers · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 19:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, this (below) is what is in the reference cited (Matthews 1900):

Divisions of the Jingili tribe^[2]
Phratry	Section of Parents		Section of Offspring
Phratry	Husband	Wife	Son	Daughter
A	Jimmitcha Chunainjah Chemarainjah Tampachina	Nungalleeinja Nalainjah Naraleeinjah Nungareeinjah	Taraleeinjah Tungareeinjah Chulainjah Chungaleeinjah	Naraleeinjah Nungareeinjah Nalainjah Nungalleeinja
B	Chungaleeinjah Chulainjah Tungareeinjah Taraleeinjah	Nameeinjah Nanainjah Nabajinah Nemarainjah	Tampachina Chemarainjah Chunainjah Jimmitcha	Nabajinah Nemarainjah Nanainjah Nameeinjah

Social organisation data quality[edit]

There's clearly some inconsistencies in the data as shown in the article right now. Specifically, these Offspring sections don't appear (in any spelling) in those of their parents:

Tanagree
Chingaree

Was there a typo in the source(s)?

Also, as Mathews used a fairly consistent orthography later on, in which vowels took "Italian" values, my guess is that these two sections ought to be:

Tungaree
Chungalee

respectively. yoyo (talk) 05:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, what do we know of Mathews' informants for this data? Since his many field researches were in south-eastern Australia, and he relied on many correspondents e.g. Strehlow for data on Aboriginal groups further from home, do the sources (1900 and 1908) - or perhaps any of his notebooks - name his informants? yoyo (talk) 05:52, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ ^a ^b Mathews 1908a, p. 101.
^ Mathews 1900, p. 495.

[FOOTNOTEMathews1908a101-1] Mathews 1908a, p. 101.

[FOOTNOTEMathews1900495-2] Mathews 1900, p. 495.

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