Talk:Jewell Towne Vineyards

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Awards[edit]

I think the the statement about the awards they won is rather misleading. It doesn't qualify the awards in their proper context of being low level, state fair type awards---like the type your Grandma wins for her apple pie recipe. Fairs like "The Indy" give away literally hundreds of silver and bronzes. Here are the 8 pages of winners from last year's event. They are extremely easy to win and any winery that enters their wines in a lot of these medal factory events are bound to rack up a few. My roommate who is amateur winemaker has won over a dozen medals and she's only been making wine for the last 5 years. These are truly nothing to brag about and the way it is presented in the article misleads the readers into thinking that these awards are important and contribute to the notability of the winery. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 03:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are referring to the sentence at the time of writing formulated as "Since 1994 Jewell Towne Vineyards wines have won an array of awards from national competitions and state fairs," (as opposed to "-Jewell Towne's outstanding wines have scored "Best Wine of New Hampshire" for two consecutive years in the Eastern States Exposition wine competition (the Big 'E') in Springfield ..etc").
Knowing nothing of the the criteria or awards bonanza offered up by American Wine Society or "Indiana State Fair International Wine Competition", I don't think that initial sentence does too much harm in misrepresenting the fact that the Oldaks, as hammered in by all the sources, enter a lot of competitions. Most producers never do, maybe finding them tacky, time-wasting, in bad taste or a no-win scenario. I doubt the problem lies in that a reader will assume JTV beat so-and-so super estate in competition, but the concern that it takes an informed discriminating observer to assess what weight to place on prizes awarded by Indiana State Fair. I don't think it's up to us, as we're obliged to simply apply secondary sources in due proportional weight.
That said, I'm not really against crudely amputating the sentence, or removing it altogether. It's just the "ref-principle".
-And hey. If your roommate is getting significant secondary source-coverage for award-winning wine, maybe she ought to be in the big dictionary? ;) MURGH ^disc. 11:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]