Talk:Jerry Fodor

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Date	Process	Result
January 22, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
February 9, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
July 31, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
June 13, 2009	Good article reassessment	Kept
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Extremely exhausted[edit]

--Francesco Franco 17:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC) i will have to finish this off-line within the next two days.--Lacatosias 17:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Posted[edit]

Posted second installment. I'll keep working on it.--Lacatosias 17:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Failed Good Article[edit]

The article has very long sections. I'm sure they could be broken up into sub-sections so as not to appear so drawn-out. joturner 16:11, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good article status added. joturner 16:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes[edit]

The footnotes are a mess. The superscripts do not correspond to the listed references. Some of the items listed as references (e.g., Carnap, Harman) do not appear to be cited in the body. I'm not going to try to change them myself, since I am not sure that I would fix them properly.

Yes, yes, give me a chance please!! I have just tranformed the artcile into three or four separete artcile and I had to move out the referenecs that correspond with the footnotes on the other pages.

Keep in midn, I've doe ALL of this work by myself. I'll have the references on THIS page (the tiothers are alerady in order) straightened out this afternoon.--Lacatosias 09:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also please sign you damned posts!! Critisms are welcome but anonymity (and I don't have admin status so I can't check into the logs as far as I know) is rude.

--Lacatosias 09:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

( half hour later) So what's the problem now??--Lacatosias 10:30, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

It seems that the photo of Fodor will have to be taken down because of uncertainty of copyright status. That's unfortunate. I think it defintely enhances the quality of the article for non-academic readers. Is it possible for someone over there in the States (I'm in Italy) to try to get copyright permission for this photo or replace it with one that is in the public domain? --Lacatosias 16:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC) Resolved. --Lacatosias 15:57, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo is still lacking, BTW. Someone should probably write to Fodor at some point and ask permission, if anyone's has the time and interest any more.--Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 11:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't exactly the most becoming photograph, either. static shakedown 20:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

I think it would be nice (and prudent) to provide the pronunciation of some surnames that aren't intuitively clear. These include, notably, Fodor, Haugeland, as well as many others. They pose a difficulty for nonnative speakers, and I've even noticed native speakers occasionally stumble over them or pronounce them in different ways. Ariosto 07:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's pronounced "Frodo."137.205.183.109 (talk) 09:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Italic text

be back[edit]

I'll come back and take a look at the "professionally edited" Featured Article that will have been made of this and numerous other philosophy articles in about three months. --Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 20:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminativism vs. reductionism[edit]

Is there any difference? A reductionist is either a reductionist in the weak sense that they think that mental phenomena are entirely determined by physical law (in which case they agree with Fodor), or they're reductionists in the sense that they don't think beliefs, desires, etc. really exist, in which case they're eliminativists. Is there an intermediate position? Cadr 18:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess type physicalism could be a reductionist position which isn't eliminativist and which Fodor doesn't agree with. Cadr 18:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As on: Searle?137.205.183.109 (talk) 09:56, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Sweeps[edit]

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Lampman (talk) 18:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of Gall[edit]

The discussion of Gall is inaccurate and uncited. Here is discussion of Gall, http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.ne.18.030195.002043 Also see the wiki article on him for more info. Iamwpj (talk) 23:52, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jerry Fodor/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The article is comprehensive, neutral, stable, NPOV, well-referenced with high quality sources, and meets most other criteria for FA status. It failed FAC becasue of issues of difficulty of prose and wordiness. It seems reasonable to put in A (slightly above GA and below FA).--Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 07:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 07:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 19:48, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Jerry passed away today[edit]

So edits to this page should be made to reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.151.35.4 (talk) 22:57, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, shoutouts if you also came here from the front page. Like, I thought this was the guy who made the travel guides... but no. Whatevs. Peace out.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.211.220.174 (talk) 05:24, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Absence of Fiona Cowey[edit]

Fiona Cowey's book, WHAT'S WITHIN (1999), was largely aimed at reviving old-school empiricism of the Lockean sort. I'm simplifying greatly, but she saw Fodor and Chomsky as the chief rationalist innatist threats to her neo-Lockean project and devoted much of the book to a sweeping assault on Fodor in particular. It inspired a lengthy retort from Fodor, sharply worded enough to excite a stir in academia at the time. https://ruccs.rutgers.edu/jerry/26-personal-sites/jerry-fodor/277-doing-without-what-s-within-fiona-cowie-s-critique-of-nativism I find it very odd that none of this is mentioned. I inserted a few words under "Criticism" in this article, but it was reverted. I'm not sure why, but perhaps it needs further development. Volunteers? Ideas? --Christofurio (talk) 19:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cowie, BTW, is a professor at the California Institute of Technology. Her critique of contemporary innatists began life as a PhD dissertation.