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Responding to the request for closure at WP:AN/RFC. There is a consensus for partial inclusion, as has already been implemented in the article. This is informed by the comments here as well as the broader community consensus on WP:V. Naturally, if someone finds a reliable source supporting English then that can be included as well. Sunrise (talk) 20:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I'm removing these secondary languages from the infobox, because in ethnicity-related articles, common-sense dictates that only mother-tongues need to be mentioned. Find a single instance in any FA to the contrary. Unless you can provide evidence that they have adopted English, Hindi, and Konkani as their mother tongues, it should stay as it is. Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 16:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that most Indians don't speak Hebrew, many Israelis chose to speak local Indian languages as well as English as stated in the sources. As this article is specifically about Israelis living in India, it is important to state the languages they adopted and speak in the country alongside their mother-tongue.DaTraveller (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well duhh! But since we disagree with each other, and it seems unlikely that any consensus will be reached among ourselves, I've tagged this for RFC. Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 14:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support partial inclusion: The template documentation says that the language element is for languages spoken by the ethnic group. I would take that to mean "commonly spoken," not "mother tongue". Though infobox content is very commonly not sourced, there's little question that verifiability actually requires it to be sourced, so at the very least when there is a conflict as there is here then the conflict needs to be resolved through reliable sourcing. The two sources cited here support Hebrew, Konkani, and Hindi, but not English, so at this point in time, I'd support removing English and leaving the other three. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support inclusion of Hindi, Konkani, and English. Hindi and English are the official languages of India, which would explain why the Israelis (who speak English and Hebrew) are using English and Hindi rather than Hebrew. SW3 5DL (talk) 01:44, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support partial inclusion as per TransporterMan. Any language that a reliable source says that this ethnic group speaks should be included. I'd be shocked if that doesn't include English (as it's widely spoken in India), but if a source can't be found to back that up, then only include Hebrew, Konkani, and Hindi. -- Shudde ^talk 08:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All right then! Since enough time has passed already and the majority consensus is for a partial inclusion of the languages, I shall be closing this RFC. Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 12:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Misleading article name[edit]

It is great that so many Indians love Israel, and I am glad that the India-Israel relationship is flourishing, but these Indian are most definitely not Israelis. There cannot be more than a few hundred or a few thousand Israelis in India at any one time.

I advocate deleting this article or, at least changing its name to something like "Israel-lovers in India". In the article it could state that such Israel-lovers self-describe themselves as "Israelis". The question is, though, where is the evidence for this? I have never heard of such a thing. Dori1951 (talk) 14:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]