Talk:In the Absence of Truth

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Former good article nomineeIn the Absence of Truth was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
August 10, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed

Fair use rationale for Image:In the absence of truth.jpg[edit]

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Resolved. Seegoon 17:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA nomination[edit]

I'm failing this album's GA nomination for the following reasons:

  • You should probably trim the professional reviews part of the album template a bit. Only fairly major publications should be included (if it doesn't have a wikilink, it probably isnt notable enough).
  • also in the album template, there should be an m-dash in between the recorded dates.
  • Live and remix albums aren't included in the chronology section of the template. Skip back to Panopticon
  • The album picture is very large for a supposed fair use image. Consider reducing the size a bit.
  • "came under fire in several areas" -- sounds too cliché
  • punctuation needs to be included inside quotations (i.e. "but one the band perfected with their 2002 album Oceanic," and...)
  • Billboard is a magazine, so it should be italicized whenever it appears in the article.
  • "Allmusic" should be "All Music Guide".
  • Mention the chart positions of the album in the "Reception" section rather than make a chart for two entries.
  • Even though they're wikilinked in the lead, you should wikilink important terms like Isis and Panopticon in the body as well.
  • Take out the "(see 2006 in music)"
  • Mention the record label in the lead.
  • Don't link to stuff like article scans in your references. It's an illegal practice for the scanner, and wikipedia shouldn't link to it. It's OK to have a reference that lacks a url.
  • More information is needed for the Q Magazine reference. At minimum, we need a title and an author. Simply taking the issue number from Metacritic isn't enough.

Now, these are rather nitpicky things, and I would just place the article on hold if those were my only concerns. However, there's one huge thing missing from the article: a recording section. The article immediately jumps into a "reception" section, but mentions nothing about the recording process for the album. Where was it recorded? For how long? Was there a lot/not much overdubbing? When was the album announced? Also, you should mention anything that the band did to promote the album, such as a promotional tour. These are major things that are critical for any encyclopedic article on an album, so I'm going to have to fail this one. Best wishes on improving the article. Teemu08 04:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • In response to the album cover thing, I honestly don't care, and wouldn't fail an article because of it. However, other people do care, and it would probably help your chances with a separate reviewer. Teemu08 02:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed reviews from album template[edit]

As per GA fail, I'm not going to delete these reviews per se, but they don't really have a place in the article. Sod.

  • Absolute Punk (92/100) link
  • Ground and Sky (Positive) link
  • HCS.net link
  • Metal Storm link
  • Musique Machine link
  • Sea of Tranquillity link
  • Scene Point Blank link
  • Sonic Frontiers link
  • Transform Online (Negative) link

Seegoon 13:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Second tranche

Seegoon (talk) 11:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for expansion... one day.[edit]

Seegoon (talk) 23:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accolades needing better sources[edit]

Seegoon (talk) 21:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quote[edit]

Stick this in there someday:

"Although in my own approximation and many others, the band’s 2006 album In the Absence of Truth may have been [Isis'] one stumbling block."

Davenport, Joe (19 May 2009). "ISIS – Wavering Radiant". Delusions of Adequacy. Retrieved 11 April 2011. Seegoon (talk) 12:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:In the Absence of Truth/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Green tickY All the start class criteria
Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year
Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album.

Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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