Talk:Impalement (heraldry)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Dimidiation

My thought is that it would be best to add a paragraph about dimidiation to this article. The two are very closely related, and dimidiation is an older form of marshalling two shields. Anyone opposed? We can make dimidiation, dimidiated, etc., redirect here.--Eva ^bd 13:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Currently there's a separate article Dimidiation; linked to it. Maybe there should be an overall article on marshalling of arms... AnonMoos (talk) 16:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Japanese Wikipedia has an article on marshalling of arms (ja:マーシャリング (紋章学)). -- AnonMoos (talk) 12:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

The closest thing we now have to a "marshalling of arms article" seems to be in Division of the field... AnonMoos (talk) 13:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Other institutions

Are dioceses and abbeys the only institutional arms that are traditionally impaled? Or would, for example, the mayor of a town be able to impale his personal arms with the civic arms? --194.98.58.121 (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Arthur Charles Fox-Davies, A Complete Guide to Heraldry (1909), p. 534 only mentions the official arms "of Archiepiscopal and Episcopal Sees, of the Kings of Arms, and of the Regius Professors at Cambridge". AnonMoos (talk) 12:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

lozenge

In removing the page's only illustration of the most frequent use of impalement, Lobsterthermidor wrote: Replaced erroneous image of impalement in which the arms of an heraldic heiress (shown in lozenge) have been impaled, contrary to heraldic law.

It's news to me that only heiresses use lozenges, or (on the other hand) that heiresses are forbidden to impale. —Tamfang (talk) 08:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Tierces

The discussion of the tiereced arms of Corpus Christi College, Oxford is very confused, based on the misunderstanding that Hugh Oldham was Bishop of Winchester. In fact Oldham was Bishop of Exeter, and the central tierce (argent, thereon an escutcheon charged with the arms of the See of Winchester) represents the principal founder Richard Foxe (Oldham was the junior founder). The pelican in the first tierce is indeed a mystical symbol, but it also represents Foxe who adopted it as one of his personal symbols and the college which he charged with using it.

This could be fixed, but it might be preferable to use one of the other Oxford tiercings, Brasenose College, Oxford or Lincoln College Oxford, as the structures are simpler there: in each case the first tierce is the personal arms of the principal founder, the second tierce is an escutcheon of the ecclesiastical arms of the principal founder, and the third tierce is the personal arms of the junior founder. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:42, 7 October 2017 (UTC)