Talk:Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin

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A fact from Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin tried to pass a decree in 1994 that would have prohibited wearing hijab in Egyptian schools?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin.

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 00:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin tried to pass a decree, in 1994, that would have prohibited wearing hijab in Egyptian schools? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/30/archives/in-egypts-schools-fashion-is-politics.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/scarf-reversal-1449258.html
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Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 02:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hussein Kamel Bahaeddin, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@FuzzyMagma: New enough in mainspace and long enough. QPQ needed. A citation needed tag needs addressing. There is some copyediting needed as well, as there as I see passages that are very hard to comprehend, such as His defence of that was that as long as it was available for the rich to join this certificate. I changed the hook to include his full name; the fact contained does check out to the sources. The quote for an "Egyptian daily" is actually the Dubai-published Gulf News and honestly does not need to be quoted. Good deal of work to do; ping when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:11, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Sammi Brie: I do not get what you mean by citation needed, the two sources explicity discuss the hook (the independent and NYT, not sure why are you discussing the Egyptian daily as source to this hook). Did some copy editing. I do not see any "good deal of work" needed as it is already done. as for QPQ, all the nominated DYK are taken, unless the main page does not actually reflect that. Back to you, Usrer:FuzzyMagma 09:57 11/02/2023
- Sammi Brie, I'm not sure why a QPQ is needed for this nomination, since FuzzyMagma has one nomination that yesterday made it to the main page, one in Queue 1, one approved but not yet promoted to prep, this one was the fourth, and two others were subsequently nominated but have not yet been reviewed. One of those two will eventually need a QPQ, but this one shouldn't. FuzzyMagma, you will have to provide a QPQ for one of those other nominations on this page, and there are dozens of untaken/unreviewed nominations currently available—indeed, the ones immediately before and after this one on the nominations page are unreviewed as I type this. (I don't believe we count nominations that were failed as one of the freebies, as was the case with FuzzyMagma's first nomination, which was short of the required 5x expansion.) BlueMoonset (talk) 07:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - My apologies, FuzzyMagma, I did not receive this ping because you did not properly sign your name (use four tildes please). Nominations 5 and 6 probably were filed after this one but before I reviewed. You do not need QPQ here. But you do need to address the ^{[citation needed]} template. And there are still passages with unidiomatic English: In 2004, the Ministry of Education dismissed a considerable number of educators leaning toward Islam were fired. and Consequently, close to 30 workshop attendees were held at the State Security Office for up to 24 hours. The Ministry of Education then withheld 15 days of each participant's monthly pay and accused them of teaching sexual liberty and atheism. (out of context; why were they detained after the workshop if the education ministry supported this?). You may be able to "read" the underlying Arabic under translated passages like this, but I can't, and neither can most of our readers. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:29, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Sammi Brie @Sammi Brie:, aha!, I am the one who put that ^{[citation needed]} template when I was writing. Anyway, addressed. The 'unidiomatic' pharse is now fixed. The last part, if I stated the underlying Arabic under translated passages (which are not actually translated but where written in English) then I can be asked (rightly) to state from where did I get this? I might be misinterpreting your question here, but the way I understand it seems like am being asked to do some original research and give an opinion. To avoid doing that I linked the word homosexuality and atheism to LGBT rights in Egypt and Irreligion in Egypt. FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @FuzzyMagna: Looking good now. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]