Talk:Hong Kong identity card

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...The links for references 2, 3, and 6 did not work for me. ...A section about non-Hong Kong citizens applying for an HKID should be included, as some of the rules may differ. ...In the section called "Classes of HKID," the wording about the Hong Kong Identity Card is identical to that of its source, in reference number 1, and should be changed to avoid plagiarism. ...In the section called "HKID Number," the sentences about the letter U and its association with women who have just given birth seems unnecessary and could be deleted. Besides, there is no source for this information. ...In "Information on first and second-generation computerised HKIDs," it is unclear what the difference is between the two types, and citations are needed. This section also seems less relevant, so it could possibly be moved to later in the article, after "Hong Kong Smart ID Cards" and "Use as a travel document." ...The "Names on Chinese and Roman Script" section seems irrelevant and off-topic. I think it should be deleted, because the article is already pretty long. ...Consider using an example photo of an HKID for "Information on the face of a smart identity card" section. Instead of listing the included elements, a photo with the different elements labeled may be an appreciated alternative. ...In "Use as a Travel Document," there is a statement about Albania accepting HKIDs but no source. When I tried to find a source for it, I only found this one, , which states that people who have a Hong Kong passport can enter Albania without a visa, not people who have a Hong Kong ID card. --LiaK (talk) 01:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

References

invasion of privacy issues

does anyone know where I can find some discussion on such issues? --little Alex 07:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction / Disputed tag

There are various statement that I either dispute, am not sure, or seems to me to contradict other part of the article. I'm just going to list it.

• Since "child" HKID are issued for those that obtain HKSAR Passport, am not sure whether none-ROA child can obtain HKID card.

• 11+ need to obtain HKID, do they have to carry them? (The article says 18+ does, but does not specify for 11+)

• "The "youth" card becomes invalid as a document for entry into Hong Kong at this point; however, a temporary printed document is issued to the applicant and may be presented in conjunction with the bearer's "youth" card to gain entry." - They take away the old card on application of a new one. Also, I was explicitly told by an immigration official last month when renewing HKID, that the paper temporary identification does _not_ provide entry to HK.

• "As children under the age of 11 are not eligible for a HKID" - Contradict the section that talk about "child" HKID.

-- KTC 14:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

1. I am not sure that if a non-ROA "Child" HKID exists either.
2. According to Hong Kong Law Chapter 115 Section 17C, people who are 15 or above are required to carry their HKID. I will fix it soon.
3. Yes, I confirm that receipt cannot be used as immigration document. My brother once ran into trouble because of this. (From another user: I have used that temporary ID paper, together with a valid passport, to arrive at, and depart from the HK Int'l Airport using the HK permanent resident lane in 2004 without problems, and I didn't have to fill out a declaration form.)
4. Fixed. The former is correct. This part seemed to be added by me long time ago, but didn't notice the latter sentence.

--Leeyc0 15:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Links to other articles

I wonder why there are links to MyKad and National Registration Identity Card in the See Also section, despite the fact that they are never mentioned in the main article. I am going to remove them because information is already included in the more general Identity document article. Cheungpat 14:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

question concerning the card

First of all I´m really sorry that this question doesn´t help to improve that article but I made everywhere equieries and didn´t get the answer for the following question which could have a strong influence on my future so please don´t delete it and try to help me if you can. Here´s my question: I´ve european citizienship and want to apply for a Hong Kong ID card (NOT the permanent one, just the ordinary without the right of abode) in order to be able to apply for a job in Hong Kong. Are there any possibilities for me to get this card? Many thanks for you help and understanding in advance! Dagadt (talk) 15:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes you can. Indeed you need to get the card if you intend to stay more than 180 days in HK. --Leeyc0 (Talk) 18:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Would I be wrong to consider that 'Right to Land' (RTL) is more 'permanent' than ROA. Those with RTL get a permanent id card, not a non-permanent one, surely? Essentially, there are two ways to get ROA - being born (or naturalised) as a Chinese citizen of Hong Kong, or becoming a permanent resident after 7 years' lawful residency. If you are a Chinese citizen, then your ROA is permanent. If you are not a Chinese citizen, then your ROA is dependent upon your continued residence in Hong Kong. In practice this means if you leave Hong Kong for more than 3 years, then your ROA gets 'down-graded' to RTL. RTL can never be lost, regardless of how long you spend outside Hong Kong. RTL has almost the same benefits as ROA, with just a few exceptions such as losing the ability to vote. Holders of RTL never need to apply for visas and have the freedom to live, work, study and gain access to public healthcare etc. - just like holders of ROA. I would love to see an RTL id card to settle this, but surely it ought to be a permanent card.

symbols

what is amx k1? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.120.169 (talk) 20:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Non-smart ID issued in Kowloon office, for a male born on the mainland who has right of abode in HK but a dubious birth certificate.

Loss of ID?

Some people have said it is possible to lose permanent ROA status. Does anyone have more information on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.152.252.15 (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Table

The following table has been added and removed recently by two anonymous users. I am copying it here for reference. Maybe the information can be used in some form in the article. Alternatively, a link could be given to an official page containing this information, if it exists. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 08:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Symbol	Description
***	the holder is of the age of 18 or over and is eligible for a Hong Kong (S. A. R.) Re-entry Permit.
*	the holder is between the age of 11 and 17 and is eligible for a Hong Kong (S. A. R.) Re-entry Permit.
A	the holder has the right of abode in (the) Hong Kong (S. A. R.).
B	the holder's place of birth, date of birth or gender has been changed since his/ her first registration.
C	the holder's stay in (the) Hong Kong (S. A. R.) is limited by the Director of Immigration at the time of his registration of the card.
F	the holder is a female.
H1	code of ID card issuing office
K2	code of ID card issuing office
L	the holder has lost his/ her ID card once or more since his/ her first registration; 'L1' means he/ she has lost his/ her ID card once, 'L2' means twice, and so on..
M	the holder is a male.
R	the holder has a right to land in (the) Hong Kong (S. A. R.).
S1	code of ID card issuing office
U	the holder's stay in (the) Hong Kong (S. A. R.) is not limited by the Director of Immigration at the time of his registration of the card.
Y	the Immigration Department has verified the holder's reported date of birth by his/ her birth certificate or passport.
Z	the holder's place of birth reported is Hong Kong.
X	the holder's place of birth reported is the Mainland (mainland China).
W	the holder's place of birth reported is the region of Macau.
O	the holder's place of birth reported is in other countries.
N	the holder is not a Chinese citizen.

'N' is wrong. 'N' means that the holder's name has been changed. I had one added to my ID card when I added a Chinese name to my western one.

Total number of HKIDs

I wonder how many HKIDs exist in the HK govt database. The population of HK is 7 million, but given the large number of immigrants and emigres there could be up to 20 million HKID holders in the world... any idea how we can find out this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.151.203 (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

More on this

More useful history of HKID from SCMP. Onanoff (talk) 05:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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