Talk:History of the Russian language in Ukraine

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that is not true, ukraine always had russian language, because ukraine appeared on former kievan rus' territory (south-west rus'), so russian was spoken there before those territories was named "ukraine", remember about old-russian language188.254.126.81 (talk) 18:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)igor[reply]

This article is of very low quality and full of POV, referring to lands as "Ukraine" at a time where there was no Ukraine[edit]

For example, the article talks about Russian "settlers" in Novorossiya, and the areas are referred to as southern Ukraine - except at the 19th century there was no such thing as Ukraine, and the areas of Novorossiya had no historical connection to Ukraine.

The author keeps on mentioning how Russians moved into "Southern Ukraine/Eastern Ukraine," except at the time these were not "Ukraine," and the previous residents before Russians there were not Ukrainians but Tatars. Or in other words, there's an attempt to push a nationalistic revisionist POV in this article.

Russians were not "immigrating" to Ukraine in the 19th century, but rather migrating to other Russian lands, like Novorossiya (that only became Ukraine under the USSR). DonetskAndBack (talk) 23:02, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A) Your argument about the 'non-existence' of Ukraine runs contrary contrary to Subtelny; B) This article has more than one 'author' (so, please stop talking about article content as if it were written by one author where the history shows that it has been developed by multiple authors), and, yes, there were 'Ukrainians' already living in those territories: it's irrelevant that Russia did not use the term where other countries did; C) Sticking information about a 1994 poll is WP:UNDUE and WP:POINTy. The article is about the history, not the last couple of decades. Note, also, the your source for the poll is Евгений Морин. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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