Talk:History of Saturday Night Live (1980–1985)

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Alternate organization[edit]

The History of Saturday Night Live (1990-1995) has some improvements that should be considered for the other articles in the series, such as:

eliminating the Season Breakdown section, promoting all items within it
moving season-specific comments to the appropriate section instead of lumping them all together in the introduction
adding a Hosts and musical guests section and providing a cross-reference there to the right section in List of Saturday Night Live hosts and musical guests

If you agree these changs represent improvements, consider applying them here too. Thanks. 66.167.139.170 11:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Larry David/Seinfeld[edit]

During Dick Ebersol's time running SNL, Larry David (Seinfeld creator, star of Curb Your Enthusiasm) was one of the writers for the show. Dick didn't think any of Larry's sketches were funny, and not a single one during that whole year made it into the show. One day Larry snapped and angrily quit the show, but when he returned home he regretted this decision. Kenny Kramer suggested he just turn up the next day. Larry did, and lasted until the end of the season. This was later the inspiration for the Seinfeld episode where George quits his job then turns up the next day as if nothing happened. (Source: Kenny Kramer's Reality Tour DVD)

Tone[edit]

There is some hyperbole and overemotional language used, some of which I will address. It's a damn big article, though. Help! --Lexein 20:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My god[edit]

This article seems to have been written by someone with a giant Viking Battle Axe to grind. I've deleted a ton of unsourced speculation, POV claims, hyperbole and blatant BLP violations. I don't really have the interest this article needs to properly improve it, but I hope someone else with knowledge and interest will. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 22:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As a former editor of this article, I know that many of the "missing" citations were once cited to Tom Shales's book Live From New York. I don't know when or why this reference was deleted, or by who. 69.120.17.100 (talk) 09:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hill and Weingrad's Saturday Night book[edit]

A large portion of this article is derived without attribution from Doug Hill and Jeff Weingrad's Saturday Night [/] A Backstage History of Saturday Night Live (William Morrow, 1989). JTRH (talk) 00:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1980 Charlie Rocket Stalking John Lennon short Film[edit]

In the 1980 season there was a film of Charlie Rocket outside the Dakota looking through John Lennon's trash, and trying to "Track him Down". When the episode was re-run after Lennon's killing by an 'obsessed stalker', this clip was pulled out and replaced with a clip from another show. I can't find any mention of this anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.52.142.241 (talk) 02:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the sketch with Malcolm McDowell playing John and Denny Dillon (I think) playing Yoko? That was the second ep. of that season, which aired only a couple of weeks before Lennon's murder. I don't think that ep. was actually rerun; as I recall, once the Doumanian season ended prematurely, they ran reruns from 1975-1980 until the next fall. JTRH (talk) 13:37, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tidbits (Bill Murray, Buck Henry)[edit]

I believe the tidbit of 'first time former cast member hosting alongside new castmembers' used with Bill Murray is false. Back in the 1977-1978 season, Chevy Chase (a former cast member) hosted the show and Bill Murray had been instated as a new cast member in the previous season after Chase left. There may be different definitions to 'hosting alongside new castmembers' but technically Chevy Chase was the first, as a new cast member was on the show then. Deletion of the fact is imminent so I am stating reasoning beforehand so that someone knows why it was deleted before attempting to put the factoid back up. EDIT: Also, there's a bit that says 'Buck Henry never returned to host again' which seems a bit preemptive seeing as how both SNL and Buck are both still 'on the air' so to speak. There's still the possibility of him hosting again so I believe this note should be deleted as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.151.248 (talk) 20:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chase was the first former cast member to return as host (Feb. 18, 1978), and Murray had joined the cast by then. Murray was the first former cast member to host with an entirely new cast, the last show of the Doumanian season (Mar. 7, 1981). So that can be interpreted either way, but I think your point is correct. As for the possibility of Buck Henry hosting again...well, he hasn't done it in 30 years, and he's now 80 years old, so I think it's highly unlikely, but if you insist on not ruling it out, the phrase "Henry has never hosted again" would cover it. JTRH (talk) 12:06, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]