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On 1 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from His Majesty's Penitentiary to Her Majesty's Penitentiary. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 1 September 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 16:40, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His Majesty's Penitentiary → Her Majesty's Penitentiary – The name of this page was changed from Her to His Majesty's Penetentiary on the assumption that a name change was automatic with the death of Queen Elizabeth and the accession of King Charles but according to recent media reports the name of this institution is still Her Majesty's Penitentiary.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] I can find no sources that call it "His Majesty's Penetentiary" and so until the provincial government officially changes the name of the prison, the name of the article should revert to Her Majesty's Penitentiary. 209.171.85.68 (talk) 15:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment It appears that OP is correct, and that the institution in St. John's is still known today as "Her Majesty's Penitentiary." However, I question the scope of this article. The lead reads "Her Majesty's Penitentiary (HMP) refers to Newfoundland and Labrador's (NL) prison system in Canada." However, I can't find any source to back this up - Her Majesty's Penitentiary appears to refer to HMP St. John's, and nothing else. 162 etc. (talk) 17:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incredibly weak support - Given the evidence. Perhaps we could avoid the question by simply moving to HM Penitentiary, which is used on the buildings as demonstrated by the image in the article. estar8806 (talk) ★ 20:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Legally, it has changed to “His Majesty” with the change of reign. Just because a few news articles don’t get it right, doesn’t change that basic LEGAL fact. Gillespk (talk) 02:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you cite sources to this effect? 162 etc. (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Government of Newfoundland and Labrador's website still refers to it as Her Majesty's Penitentiary[1] whilst there are no sources stating the name has changed. 199.119.232.210 (talk) 03:47, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support it appears to be still the legal and common name, so we are now using an outdated name from the early 20th century. -- 67.70.25.175 (talk) 06:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support until there is a source that says the name has been changed. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] ttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/her-majestys-penitentiary-1.6951813

[2] ttps://www.thestar.com/news/canada/officials-confirm-death-at-notorious-her-majestys-penitentiary-jail-in-newfoundland/article_b51dbc8f-d685-56e2-94ea-dbd1d3bae114.html

[3] ttps://vocm.com/2023/06/28/212986/

[4] ttps://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/as-construction-of-a-new-st-johns-prison-remains-stalled-the-state-of-her-majestys-penitentiary-gets-worse-opposition-says-100872608/

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