Talk:Helen C. White

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Date	Process	Result
September 16, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 18, 2014.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Helen C. White's (pictured) graduate students called her "the Purple Goddess" partly due to her predominantly purple wardrobe and exceptional height?

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on November 26, 2017, November 26, 2021, and November 26, 2022.

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DYK nomination[edit]

Switch to non-colorized version?[edit]

The colorized photo is a little jarring when first visiting this page. Is it possible to use the non-colorized original instead? - Ttwaring (talk) 01:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, it's possible, but I don't see why it's necessary. Is the issue the brightness? Would you prefer a royal purple? czar ♔ 02:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My issue with the colorization is that it's not accurate. (No way to know the exact shade of purple that the clothes were, unless we find a living witness to the photo session, with eidetic memory to boot!) Colorizing only the clothing of a photo is also quite unnatural-looking.-- Brainy J ~✿~ (talk) 04:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(If you don't know the color, how could it be inaccurate?) I don't see a problem with taking a degree of artistic license with colorization (especially when it's obvious), but I'll leave the image reverted to the b/w for now czar ♔ 14:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Helen C. White/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 10:56, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to take on this review. On preliminary inspection it looks to be a well-written, well-presented article and I will make a detailed reading soon. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First reading[edit]

I'm starting with the main body of the text and will consider whether the lead provides an adequate summary later.
"... for the city's cultural affordances." - I don't understand this statement.
"... thesis prize by the 1916 graduation." - Can you be awarded a prize by a graduation?
"... Wisconsin Writers' Institute opened in the 1945." - "the" not necessary here.
"Her main time to write was in the summers," - Maybe "opportunity". This and the next sentence might sound less abrupt if combined.
"The first fellowship was a year long," - Maybe "lasted for a year" or somesuch.
"... though she didn't think highly of her own writing." - Presumably this refers to poetry?
"Upon her death, the University of Wisconsin named a new building, which houses the undergraduate library College Library, after her." - This sentence is a bit awkward and could be rephrased.
Looking now at the lead, it mentions her dissertation on William Blake but that does not directly appear in the body of the article.

Apart from the points I mention above, the lead and the rest of the article seems fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Cwmhiraeth, thanks for the review! I think I got everything. What do you think? Only thing I didn't touch was the Blake dissertation. I kept the Blake part in the works section so it's identifiable as her dissertation but not next to the "early life" section fact that she graduated in 1924. czar ♔ 14:48, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My point was really that there should be no information in the lead that is not present in the body of the text. In this instance, you mention the dissertation in the lead but not elsewhere and I think you should add a sentence mentioning it in the first paragraph of the Madison section. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:02, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth, I meant that the dissertation is mentioned at the beginning of "Work and recognition"

Her first major project was The Mysticism of William Blake, a modified version of her dissertation.[9] It was published in 1927 by the University of Wisconsin Press.[11]

and I felt that it fits better there than in the Madison section czar ♔ 12:06, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, its a bit indirect, but I daresay it will do. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA criteria[edit]

The article is well written and complies with MOS guidelines on prose and grammar, structure and layout.
The article uses several reliable third-party sources, and makes frequent citations to them. I do not believe it contains original research.
The article covers the main aspects of the subject and remains focussed.
The article is neutral.
The article was created by the nominator in January 2014 and is stable.
The images are relevant and have suitable captions. They come from the University of Wisconsin Archives and appear to be suitable for inclusion in the article.

Final assessment - I believe this article reaches the GA criteria. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:11, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]