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what the heck?

Since when did people list how many commercials someone was in their article? PrincessOfHearts 01:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

A random bizarre glitch.

Ok... I really hope this is a glitch, but for some reason I am getting a massive picture of L'Origine_du_monde on the top of the article, and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get rid of it. It's hilarious. Mchmike 04:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I just want to say.. I love hayden! like i think she is a great idol for our generation of youth!

resides in...

Where is the evidence that she lives in Warren, MI, or anywhere in Michigan? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.61.189.92 (talk) 23:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

gosh im chocked, I tough she was 26-30 something. that girl looks old.

Stephen Colletti

I removed "It is confirmed that Hayden is dating Stephen Colletti from MTV's Laguna Beach." because the sources I found via searching Google do not show Colletti confirms the relationship when asked about it. If you have a source confirming the relationship, please add it when returning the statement. If you need help with citation templates, let me know. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 07:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Fuck him he is the scum of the universe.

Birth year

Is there a reason that one part of the article says she was born in 1990 whereas all the other parts say 1989? 125.238.56.127 01:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Please someone fix the picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonxsophie (talk • contribs) 03:56, 7 March 2007

  • What happened to the other pic that was on here? This picture is no good! LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.174.231.18 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 12 March 2007
  • I agree; If this is supposed to be a serious biographical resource, surely we can find a stock photo of her looking "normal".

better pic

hey, can we get a better picture of her for at the top. this ones really bad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

  • Sure. All you need to do is go make one - the existing pic is from Wikicommons and per WP:FU, free-use pictures are always preferrable to fair-use ones. Tabercil 21:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
    • An awful policy that obviously has awful results, not just in this article. Fair-use is legal so there should be no preference for free-use. WP discourages supporting an article with original research but encourages supporting it with original photography. That doesn't make a lot of sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.73.174 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 13 April 2007
  • I found the current image here. There are four images of her (freely licensed), and I felt this was the best of them. Feel free to upload another *free* image. Given the nature of free images, you can assume we'll never get a professional studio photograph. But, I frankly think the current image is great, as it reflects what she actually looks like. That's all an image is supposed to do in an encyclopedia. You might think Image:HaydenP.jpg is "prettier", but its certainly not more encyclopedic. --Rob 08:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
    • This image is the best of the four. Crumbsucker 09:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I would be happy with that image, used as a replacement. It's probably a good idea to upload all of them to Commons (for a gallery page of the actress), and then use the one suggested by Crumbsucker, as the lead photo here. --Rob 16:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi all, I was bold and removed the unfree image which was inserted and grabbed a better one of Flickr. I hope you agree with this, Cheers, --InterwikiLinksRule 21:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't be a heal

Maybe this belongs on the "Heroes" page, but, Claire's healing factor isn't established; she's unbreakable, but her disease or poison immunity aren't proven, IIRC. Trekphiler 02:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Selected filmography - Punk'd?

Does anyone here think that getting Punk'd deserves a mention in her selected filmography, or for any celebrity for that matter? eZio 19:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Good, then I'm removing it. eZio 06:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Album sales citations?

Currently, it is said in the infobox that her album has been released in March 2007 (The article fr the album says it will be released in August). The box continues; it claims that the album has sold over 6.1 million copies in the US, was #1 on the Billboard Hot 200 for 5 weeks, and is certified 4x platinum by the RIAA (Ironically, sales of 6 million in the US would denote 6x Platinum certification). There are no citations for this information; I'm clearing it. TheKillerAngel 03:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

I got some trivia for you...

http://blog.nbc.com/heroes/2007/05/for_anthony_haydens_favorite_a.php

Oh yeah. My question for Hayden. Put it onnnnnnnnnnn. 68.237.207.237 04:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

"jailbait"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jailbait


is this the term you are using? is this an official nickname or your personal fantasy?

both perhaps :S

Nomination

She was nominated as Most Beautiful Celebrity by AOL.com. [1] Should that be added?

some edits to the page

I saw a commercial for Neutrogena today and Vanessa Hudgens is the spokesperson now. I dont know if Hayden is still doing commercials for it but i just thought i would pass it along.

Also, on the timeframe for Heroes, shouldn't it be 06-07 now? The show started in 06 and ended its first season in 07. Shouldnt that be changed too?

how tall is she

what is her height? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sp0 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

5' 1" (1.55 M) don't know how to save this on wiki so if anyone knows he can do this save it...

resides in...

Where is the evidence that she lives in Warren, MI, or anywhere in Michigan? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.61.189.92 (talk) 23:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Stephen Colletti

I removed "It is confirmed that Hayden is dating Stephen Colletti from MTV's Laguna Beach." because the sources I found via searching Google do not show Colletti confirms the relationship when asked about it. If you have a source confirming the relationship, please add it when returning the statement. If you need help with citation templates, let me know. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 07:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Information regarding the split between Stephen Colletti, which was confirmed by both parties, has been added. And also the latest people she has been rumoured to be dating including Heroes co-star which has been heavily featured in magazines and newspapers. References also included. All of rumours have been cited and written as speculation. Soul warrior 2000 16:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Birth year

Is there a reason that one part of the article says she was born in 1990 whereas all the other parts say 1989? 125.238.56.127 01:34, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


better pic

hey, can we get a better picture of her for at the top. this ones really bad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.69.65.165 (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

  • Sure. All you need to do is go make one - the existing pic is from Wikicommons and per WP:FU, free-use pictures are always preferrable to fair-use ones. Tabercil 21:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
    • An awful policy that obviously has awful results, not just in this article. Fair-use is legal so there should be no preference for free-use. WP discourages supporting an article with original research but encourages supporting it with original photography. That doesn't make a lot of sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.73.174 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 13 April 2007
  • I found the current image here. There are four images of her (freely licensed), and I felt this was the best of them. Feel free to upload another *free* image. Given the nature of free images, you can assume we'll never get a professional studio photograph. But, I frankly think the current image is great, as it reflects what she actually looks like. That's all an image is supposed to do in an encyclopedia. You might think Image:HaydenP.jpg is "prettier", but its certainly not more encyclopedic. --Rob 08:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
    • This image is the best of the four. Crumbsucker 09:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I would be happy with that image, used as a replacement. It's probably a good idea to upload all of them to Commons (for a gallery page of the actress), and then use the one suggested by Crumbsucker, as the lead photo here. --Rob 16:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi all, I was bold and removed the unfree image which was inserted and grabbed a better one of Flickr. I hope you agree with this, Cheers, --InterwikiLinksRule 21:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Is there a free picture that anyone knows of with dark hair, as she appears in Heroes episode 20? Mallerd 18:32, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't be a heal

Maybe this belongs on the "Heroes" page, but, Claire's healing factor isn't established; she's unbreakable, but her disease or poison immunity aren't proven, IIRC. Trekphiler 02:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


This makes no sense she can have her bones broken so she is breakable and her healing factor is established by her being able to heal from cuts or bruises.Brainiac09 04:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats a terrible joke and please discuss this on the Clair Bennet page. (Electrobe 16:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC))

Selected filmography - Punk'd?

Does anyone here think that getting Punk'd deserves a mention in her selected filmography, or for any celebrity for that matter? eZio 19:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Good, then I'm removing it. eZio 06:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Album sales citations?

Currently, it is said in the infobox that her album has been released in March 2007 (The article fr the album says it will be released in August). The box continues; it claims that the album has sold over 6.1 million copies in the US, was #1 on the Billboard Hot 200 for 5 weeks, and is certified 4x platinum by the RIAA (Ironically, sales of 6 million in the US would denote 6x Platinum certification). There are no citations for this information; I'm clearing it. TheKillerAngel 03:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Nomination

She was nominated as Most Beautiful Celebrity by AOL.com. [2] Should that be added?

Please sign your name after you have posted a question. To answer that question yes. (Electrobe 16:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC))


automobiles?

I removed {{WikiProject Automobiles}} as I didn't feel it warranted inclusion based on the article itself, and I replaced the {{WikiProject Heroes}} banner as it seemed pertinent. Not infallible though, please correct if necessary and appropriate. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Filmography Table

This table needs to be fixed -- the gird coding seems to be broken. If I knew how to fix it I would. Thanks. --ukexpat 14:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Hayden palyed Young Jeanne in the 2001 feature film The Affair of the Necklace but I don't know how to add it. The table is still broken, BTW - Glitter (another 2001 film she was in) is listed in edit mode but doesn't show up on the table 86.134.43.54 22:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

japanese dolphining incident

she, along with some other b&c&d-grade celebrities were arrested and questioned after trying to stop a bunch of japanese slaughtering some dolphins. released without charge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.143.129 (talk) 12:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... "Released without charge" is an interesting way of wording "fled the country before she could be arrested"! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 20:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

There is a warrant out for her arrest in Japan. http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20160310,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.167.221.67 (talk) 20:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Something doesn't seem right here. It says they left via Osaka Airport, but this mainly a domestic airport. (Does take flights to South Korea). Should it have been the main international airport in the area, Kansai Airport? Whats up skip (talk) 03:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


Weekly Sincho 29 November issue reported the Fishermen's version of the 2007 October incident.
When the fishermen tried to release smaller dolphins for a conseravtional purpose, the campaigners came into the sea again. The fishermen tried to get the campainers back to the beach because the fishermen feard dolphins getting agitated and out of control. Because the fishermen and the campaigners didn't speake each other's language, the fishermen used their fishing sticks to push the surf boards.
http://www.shinchosha.co.jp/shukanshincho/tachiyomi/20071129_1.html (japanese language) Tarafuku10 (talk) 12:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

origin

Hi!

But Hayden is of Italian origin?

You know, in Italian, her surname means "baker".

--PaoVac (talk) 13:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

And of what relevance is that particular fact? And can you even prove that fact? Just because you have a surname which if spelt in another language meens baker doesn't meen that you are of Italian descent. (Electrobe 16:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC))(16:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC))


The fact that Hayden has an Italian surname - or rather, it sounds like an Italian word - not at all it means that she is of Italian descent... my sentence is not the explanation of the first one... just only a note...
--PaoVac 18:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

You do just realise you have argued against yourself there don't you? and could you please answer the questions i have asked rather than making notes (Electrobe 18:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC))

There is no contradiction... In my first contribution I wrote a question mark... so my reasoning was:
1) Hayden has a Italian word surname
2) So, maybe is she Italian?
3) I don't know... anyone knows more?
my second sentence is not the explanation of the first one... is just only a note...
I was too cryptic... this is the real sense of my contribution.
I hope I explained myself clear!!!
--PaoVac 19:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes and you have also made this whole section irrelevant. (Electrobe 17:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

As a side note - the term "origin" when applied to performers generally means where the performer started out, the location that they started acting for example. Not in the {{infobox actor}} template but there is a good description of the concept in the {{infobox musical artist}} template. Just FYI.

Also, as to this topic, we shouldn't induce information as that is original research. We need a reference where the article subject, or some biographer we trust as reliable, states it. --NrDg 18:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge

I believe that the two articles Hayden Panettiere and Hayden Panettiere discography should be merged as neither is very long and they are both about the same person. (Electrobe 12:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC))

  • Agree with the reasons stated above. --NrDg 20:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Agree with the reasons stated above. --Danieller 213 23:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge complete (Electrobe (talk) 12:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC))

Pronunciation of Last Name

Perhaps a clarification of the proper pronunciation of Panettiere is called for, much like the proper pronunciation of Ventimiglia is provided on Milo's Wikipedia article. 66.189.231.168 (talk) 07:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Relationship with Milo Ventimiglia

It was recently reported in People magazine that she and Milo (Peter from Heroes) were openly romantically involved. I don't usually do bio articles and so I don't know the level at which this becomes worthy of being included. If someone else wants to deal with this link/info, feel free. ju66l3r (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I know there good friends which could give us the impression that ther is a deeper relationship, There is a big age difference

which probably makes it confusing like (should we or shouldn't we) No one really knows what's going on, and if they are dating they are definately keeping on the down low, (I don't even think they known how they feel but with all the pressure from the media, anything could happen) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.209.89 (talk) 13:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Added some info about this to the article. Someone may also want to add these as references: [3][4][5][6][7][8]. Cheers 80.7.207.120 (talk) 20:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

She definitely is, he and Moyles talked about it on Moyles's show. Lucky bugger (him). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.99.95 (talk) 16:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Whaling pic

Is this pic necessary? --Howard the Duck 06:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Well i think so, Because you might have heard that Hayden and some friends tried to stop A Whale hunt in Japan, It may be just a small whaling pic but it's something to do with what she cares about, And this is about her..So why not? ( Save the Whales save the World!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.209.89 (talk) 13:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Activism

I added that she handed a letter of protest to the Norwegian ambassador in which she proved to be a silly tree hugger and being portrayed that way in the Norwegian media, as she had none what so ever substantial arguments against Norway's COMMERCIAL whaling.

What on Earth has that to do with Japan's "Scientific Whaling" to do?

To present clear and good arguments is a fair thing. She failed to do that, and wasted the ambassadors time.

Now, I do understand that you like her a lot. She is pretty and all that. However for the people who don't know her (and I guess you can just forget exporting Heroes to Iceland, Norway and Japan now, in Norway we even took a stand against Star Trek on this issue), which the wikipedia entry is most useful for, it is important also to get the bad sides of her personality presented.

If she is not a vegan, her appraisal of more/less intelligent beings being slaughtered by man for consumption, and not being endangered, she is a true hypocrite!

At first, I thought the amendment was only adding her plea to influence the Bush Administration into taking a stand at the IWC meeting; discovering that it was a illogical change to my sentence (perhaps bygone reducing my irony in it) that made me furious. I don't want a war. Wikipedia is for people (like me who had never heard about her before) to learn, not for us to fight.

Footage of the surfers in Japan is part of The Cove documentary (http://thecovemovie.com/) although I cannot find any internet references to it she is in the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.64.30.2 (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

On Monday the 28th of January 2008 she handed a letter of protest to the Norwegian ambassador in the United States arguing that Japan's so called "Scientific Hunt" is illegal commercial whaling. The next day, She also appeared with Chairman Nick Rahall, Chris Shays and John Kerry at a press conference calling for the Bush Administration to stand firm at the next IWC meeting.

is now changed to:

On Monday the 28th of January 2008 she handed a letter of protest to the Norwegian ambassador in the United States arguing that Norway should stop its sustainable hunt for whales. The Norwegian ambassador was not impressed as he thought she appeared to be an uneducated self important passionate person not presenting no scientific information and only emotional tree hugging propaganda. She also delivered a letter to the Japanese ambassador calling for the end of Japan's "Scientific Hunt" of whales. The next day, she also appeared with Chairman Nick Rahall, Chris Shays and John Kerry at a press conference calling for the Bush Administration to stand firm at the next IWC meeting.

-- I have no user here, but my name is John. 83.54.44.25 (talk)

Perhaps the whole article about activism should reflect on her view and actions. The statements put forward are in strong contrasts to those that can be found on whaling. As for a civilian to take illegal action against another country, that is defined as terrorism. For a nation to take action against legal interests in another country: it's an act of war! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.54.44.25 (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I see that quotation has been required for my editing. I have made them, but will in the interest of the quote being in Norwegian translate it here:

Original text:

Primadonna
Den norske ambassaderåden er imidlertid ikke imponert over den unge aktivistens interesse for motargumenter.

- Den unge skuespilleren fremsto som særdeles selvopptatt og noe av en primadonna. «Do you love animals», og «have you ever been swimming with whales», gjentok hun uten å vise spesiell interesse for de vitenskapelig funderte argumentene for hvalfangst. Det viktigste for henne var nok å kunne vise til at hun har vært her og overlevert en protest, sier Meier.

Ifølge ham fanget Norge i fjor omtrent halvparten av sin fastsatte kvote på rundt 1000 dyr. Til sammenlikning er det mellom 150 000 og 200 000 vågehval i Nord-Atlanteren, og rundt en million dyr globalt.

My translation:

Primadonna
The representative for the Norwegian Embassy was not very impressed by the young activists interest in the other sides arguments.

-The young actress appeared to be enormously self important and some kind of a primadonna. She repeated ”Do you love animals” and ”have you ever been swimming with whales” repeatedly without paying any attention to the scientifically founded arguments in support of whaling. It seemed most important for her to be able to prove that she has been here and delivered some sort of protest, says Meier [the representative for the Embassy].

According to him Norway captured about half of its quota of 1000 Minke Whales. As a reference there are between 150.000 and 200.000 Minke Whale in the North Atlantic, and about one million Minke Whales globally.

Small addition:

The undertone of the Norwegian text is that she was there to promote herself, not her cause.

Having different opinion about an issue is respected in Norway, while trying to promote your own hidden agenda by claiming something to make yourself popular is VERY distasteful and consider hypocritic. Also, she lets down the ones who follow her cause in a genuine way by trying to benefit from it.

83.54.44.25 (talk) John again :) —Preceding comment was added at 01:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I also added a link to the newspaper article (which was widely referred to by other newspapers in Norway), and a link to the official Norwegian Governments web-page in English about whaling. Since I am no wiki-wizard I am not sure if I categorized them correctly and would be very happy if someone had a look at that bit for me.

83.54.44.25 (talk) John again!

The presentation of the information from the reference given in the activism section that is only in Norwegian is questionable to me. WP:CITE says that whenever possible, English language sources should be used; and when quoting from a different language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it. Giving a translation on the talk page isn't sufficient. The second source, regarding whaling and populations, isn't even pertinent to what it supposedly cites. In other words, the material in the reference isn't even covered. Similarly, the citation further down in the section which is in Japanese requires a translation.
There is no place in the article, or on the talk page, for anyone's opinion of Panettiere's personality. The talk page isn't a forum for discussion about her personally, only about how to present information in the article itself. As the article stands, it presents her actions, with no interpretation of what they mean, nor does it reflect a bias one way or another. This is how such things should be presented on Wikipedia - objectively. Therefore, the above poster's suppositions on Panettiere's motives is inappropriate.
Finally, the whale hunting photo was removed because it does not represent an event in which the subject of the article was involved, nor does the subject contain Hayden Panettiere. It's irrelevant to the article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I think the article is good now.
With regards to whaling, I find it natural that it, as it is, remains a separate article in Wikipedia, and that it does not reflect Hayden Panettier's fans opinion about it.
I had a user, I just forgotten it's password. Jrv73 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Wildhart, a translation has been given on this talk page, as well as with a source. There is no reason for it not to be added into the article. as for it being no place for "for anyone's opinion of Panettiere's personality" it isn't really a opinion of her personality, but an expert criticizing her for using a environmental issue to promote herself. See the Michael Moore article for instance, there is lots of criticism of him on there. Wikipedia should be NPOV, but that doesn't mean that the sources that are reliable and fully cited have to be. As the article stands, it presents her actions, with no interpretation of what they mean, nor does it reflect a bias one way or another. This is how such things should be presented on Wikipedia Yet look at the Adolf Hitler article, there is much interpretation of his actions, and a clear bias against him. --Jadger (talk) 06:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Discography

Wikipedia policy regarding unsourced additions is quite clear. This section is a stark, unreferenced, unclear list of words that, without sourcing, tells the reader nothing. A discography needs to make explicit what songs were performed on a soundtrack, what film the song was in and distribution information, including the distribution company, dates of release and pertinent inventory numbers, with references. I've tagged this section for those reasons. To make it clearer, the discography tends to imply that Panettiere did the entire soundtrack of films named Ice Princess and Try. Since she did not, that needs to be clarified. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)#Discographies for format. Wildhartlivie (talk) 17:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The discography section is ugly, unreferenced and uninformative. Unless someone addresses these concerns (or at least gives a compelling reason why it should remain), the section ought to be removed from the article. faithless (speak) 09:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed it once for those very reasons, but was met with accusations of vandalism for doing so by one editor, who claimed that this discography was there by consensus, which was a misleading statement. Then I tagged it and left the above note. I support removing it until it can be presented properly, with appropriate citations. In any case, another discography example to use as a guide in what to do with this discography is for Janis Joplin. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Considering the fact that Panettiere doesn't have a solo album out yet and her only real musical appearances have been on soundtracks, I don't see why a section should be devoted to a discography. I think mentioning the tracks in the article along with video appearances should be fine. I tagged the section quite awhile ago so if its inclusion is incredibly important, it should have been fixed by anyone who objected to it being removed altogether. Pinkadelica (talk) 14:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Considering the fact that "Wake Up Call" charted at #97 on the Billboard Pop 100,it is equivalent to #125 on the Billboard Hot 100.Those are always calculated by 28 spots between them."It's Alright It's Ok" for example charted #71 on the Pop 100 so automatically it charted #99 on the Hot 100.The Billboard Hot 100 consists of the 100 most played and selling singles in the United States and the Bubbling Hot Under for the 25 which did not in the chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fridacry (talk • contribs) 08:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Dooney & Bourke's the Hayden Bag

Dooney came out with a gorgeous handbag called the Hayden Panettiere (HP) bag. It's a limited edition handbag; limited in quantity especially in brown patent leather (only one left on ebay as of this writing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.57.23 (talk) 03:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

New lead image

I think the new lead image is very poor. The previous image was a lot better and actually was -- gasp -- even a little artistic. And my understanding was it was a Commons image, too. 23skidoo (talk) 03:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

There was a big to-do about the copyright status of those images uploaded by a (I believe) now-departed editor. faithless (speak) 06:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Confrontation with who?

This sentence doesn't seem right.

She was involved in a confrontation between Japanese fishermen and five other surfers from Australia and the United States (including former Home and Away star Isabel Lucas) of the group.

Does that imply that she got involved in a fight between surfers and fisherman? Or does that imply that she her self is a surfer. If so where in the article does that say she's a surfer. I'd change it myself but I'm sick of getting bitch slapped by wiki nerds.

--Alex LaPointetalk 01:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox image

I have reverted this edit to the earlier picture. Both are properly licensed, and both are reflecting the articles subject well, but the old one is of higher technical quality. Feel free to change back, but please drop a line about the reasoning here. ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 17:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Haircut

As of June 2008 Hayden Panettiere cut her hair into an extremely short bob. She currently does not look like the image listed in the article; a new picture should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivia Lister (talk • contribs) 01:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Well next time you see her be sure to take one. :-) faithless (speak) 02:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and haven't you heard? Paris Hilton changed her outfit this morning, we need a new picture! Zouavman Le Zouave 14:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Not whales, but the cheerleader!

This sentence: The advertising campaign and slogan for the program known as "Save whales, Save the World" has helped make Panettiere famous. is wrong. First, "Save whales, Save the World" is not a slogan used for Heroes. "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World", however, is a slogan used for Heroes. Secondly, "Save whales, Save the World" has helped less to make Panettiere famous than "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World.

So it should be "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" and not "Save whales, Save the World", so please stop editing this sentence back. 81.204.190.215 (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Panettiere's arrest warrant claim

Panettiere claims an arrest warrant was issued for her in Japan but an official from the Japanese Fisheries Agency denies her claim.

Shūkan Shinchō December 6, 19992007 issue

(Partial translation) Issuing an arrest warrant for the actress is not even considered as she did not cause a physical damage. It seems a part of their ploy to solicit donations by selling the image that they are victims. (Japanese Fisheries Agency) Tarafuku10 (talk) 13:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

The Good Student/Mr. Gibb

I added citation neededs to these two films, as I couldn't find any information about them. Also, from what I could find they both seem to have the same plot, and these might just be different names for the same film or something along those lines. Allanlw (talk) 21:10, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

The filmography list comes from IMDB, and films that aren't yet listed there are usually given a citation needed tag. I'm coming up with questions on this as well. As far as I can confirm, a film titled Mr. Gibb was produced in 2006, with Kevin Spacey as the executive director. From what I can tell, Mr. Gibb did not get a release. I don't know if there is some mysterious release planned for this year under a new title, but I can't confirm that. I am going to remove The Good Student until such a time as there is more definitive information available. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm re-adding the citation needed for Mr. Gibb. There is little evidence to prove that this film actually exists, and or was released/produced in 2006. Allanlw (talk) 03:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Besides the fact it has full production and cast credits on IMDB, which is considered reliable for such things, I've added three refs for the film. You aren't going to find massive publication on a film that was made and hasn't yet been released to a wide audience. But it didn't take much to confirm it beyond IMDB. It was produced by Kevin Spacey's film production company, Triggerstreet. Is that enough, or do you want more? Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

On spec?

Does anybody know how tall she is? TREKphiler hit me ♠ 21:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No, but you might try that celebheights web page. They probably have a guesstimate. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanx. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 10:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Uncle Fucker

"Uncle Fucker" used to redirect to Hayden Panettiere. I'm removing the redirect. Micasta (talk) 05:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts

it is mentioned in her career that she is in it but shouldn't it be listed at the bottom too where it lists her CD's and Movie/TV appearances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.110.20 (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Video games don't go in either filmography or discography. Ward3001 (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Didn't they put Haley Joel Osment's role in Kingdom Hearts in his article's filmography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.113.102 (talk) 04:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Wake up call redirects here

I don't really think it should 93.34.0.56 (talk) 11:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

No it doesn't. It just lists it as a song by Hayden Panettiere. There is no redirect on that page for the song. There is no article for the song. Wildhartlivie (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually the IP was right, "Wake up call" (note the caps) did redirect here. Someone started an article for the song with that poor grammar, and it was redirected here. I've deleted it, so now anyone entering that will be taken to Wake Up Call. Best, faithless (speak) 18:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Ack! I just typed in the name properly capitalized. My bad (and I HATE it when people say that!) Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem, simple mistake. And I hate it when people say that, too. But I'll let it slide in this case. ;-) faithless (speak) 06:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The early life section of her page is clearly wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.188.110 (talk) 13:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah? In what way? Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

BlogTV charity event

I'm concerned about the sources for the BlogTV charity event September 12th and September 13th 2009. During the show, a point came up that the user present as Hayden (Hayden-89) might be fake. It sparked a big discussion. Many people turned to wikipedia for confirmation, but the sources provided here only refer to the videos that say she will be on. I've had no luck getting confirmation from any other sources, so if someone knew something, or read something from an official Hayden Panettiere site or blog, please add those. Otherwise, I would suggest removing that part of the Activism section until further confirmation is available. Or-whatever (talk) 08:13, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed, it should be verified one way or the other in the next day or so. Until then we really don't have any proof that it was her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.224.220 (talk) 11:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

It seems that sadly she was a fake. [9][10].--Drat (Talk) 02:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Activism section edit

To Wildhartlivie. The result of your edit leaves the paragraph unclear. For example, I also acknowledge the difference but, unlike Panettiere, I support both the commercial and the aboriginal whaling as far as they are sustainable. They are of course different to some extent as described by the IWC, but they are also the same to some extent as they both involve killing the animal and should be under some conservation methods. That's why they are both regulated by the IWC. The fact we can read from the provided reference is that Panettiere defends the aboriginal whaling in Alaska because she sees the difference rather than the sameness. Your edit only states the reason of the fact without stating the fact.

Please tell me which part of my edit gives you an impression that it is a value judgment. Please also tell me the reason why you believe that your edit is not a value judgment (or less value judgment than mine). To me, your edit represents the value of most of the anti-whaling campaigners.

I am afraid I won't be replying to your further comment until the end of next week as I am not able to access the internet. Tarafuku10 (talk) 10:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't particularly subscribe to any view regarding whaling and it most certainly has nothing to do with supporting anti-whaling or supporting whaling. Your statement says "She also delivered a letter to the Japanese ambassador calling for the end of Japan's hunting of whales. On the other hand, Panettiere defends the aboriginal whaling in the United States."
This sets up a contrast that, with no elaboration, appears to tacitly say she is hypocritical - she calls for a country to stop whaling, but supports whaling in another. There's a huge difference between a national practice of industrial whaling and a very small segment of population doing so and I think that is what Panettiere is trying to say. Your edit says nothing about the difference. What I wrote explains that this is Panettiere's view, and it can have a bit more added.
"She also delivered a letter to the Japanese ambassador calling for the end of Japan's hunting of whales. Panettiere acknowledges that in her view, there is a difference between aboriginal whaling and industrial whaling." I would change that to say "She also delivered a letter to the Japanese ambassador calling for the end of Japan's hunting of whales. Panettiere acknowledges that in her view, there is a difference between the industrial whaling practiced in Japan and the whaling by aboriginal tribes in the United States."
If necessary, I will open a request for comments regarding this. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your revised edit. It sounds much more neutral than the initial one but I still feel my point that your edit leaves the paragraph ambiguous should be addressed. Panettiere surely see the difference. So is she neutral about the aboriginal whaling? No, the referenced video shows that she supports it rather passionately. So why can’t we articulate it in the article to make it clear to the readers exactly how she thinks about it?
I understand the Wikipedia article should not suggest its subject hypocritical, so if my edit is too abrupt, I am happy to see it changed with more elaboration. However, the Wikipedia article is not a fan page and the article should not try to justify whatever the subject does either, and this is my impression I received from your edit.
In response to the second paragraph of your comment, I feel like expanding on the issue of the aboriginal whaling. As you mentioned, it is true that a very small segment of population are involved in the aboriginal whaling, but there are also valid arguments on it from the conservational point of view. In Alaska, the bowheads are hunted and they are rated as Vulnerable by IUCL while the minkes, the main species hunted by the commercial whaling, are rated as Least Concern. Yes, the number of the animals hunted in Alaska is much smaller but, considering the estimated population, one can quite validly argue that the hunting in Alaska has more negative impact on the conservation of the particular species than the commercial whaling.
So, if I am asked to make the concrete proposal of the edit, it would be “She also delivered a letter to the Japanese ambassador calling for the end of Japan's hunting of whales. On the other hand, Panettiere defends the aboriginal whaling in the United States as she acknowledges that in her view, there is a difference between the industrial whaling and the whaling by aboriginal tribes." (The whaling by Japan is officially for the scientific purpose although many anti-whaling campaigners argue it is not. Therefore I dropped "the industrial whaling practiced in Japan" bit from your suggestion.)
I am also open to the comment process. Tarafuku10 (talk) 18:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
The thing is, we can only write what the reference states. To that end, I revised the statement to read: "At a 2007 Greenpeace event in Anchorage, Alaska, Panettiere explained that in her view, there is a difference between commercial whaling and the whaling practiced by aboriginal tribes in the United States." Beyond that, it is beyond the scope of this article to delve into the pros and cons of commercial whaling or aboriginal whaling. Using the phrase "on the other" continues to open the door to interpretation, which isn't valid for this article. It's about Panettiere's activities, not good vs. bad. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:51, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
From the beginning of this discussion, the point I am making is that your edit makes the paragraph ambiguous. The fact we can receive from the referenced source is that Panettiere defends the aboriginal whaling. Of course, in the video, she explains why she defends it and her explanation is that she sees the difference. Your edit only includes those peripheral issues rather than stating the straight-forward fact, as if it’s not something that should not be talked about, as if it’s something that should be hidden from the readers, or even as if it’s something that should be ashamed of. The aboriginal people in Alaska are proud of what they are doing and are entitled to do so as the IWC specifically approve it. It seems to me that it is you, not me, who believe that it is hypocritical to defend the aboriginal whaling while condemning the commercial whaling and want this value judgment to be reflected in the article.
It is not my intention to mislead the readers to believe that Panettiere is hypocritical. But I also oppose to the efforts to remove any possibility for the readers to have a negative thought on what Panettiere does. The whaling is a controversial issue and, by stating two related facts (opposing to the commercial whaling and defending the aboriginal whaling) together, there may be some people (e.g. those who see the sameness in the two from the conservational point of view) to believe that Panettiere is inconsistent, or even hypocritical as well as other people believing she is reasonable on the issue. It is their decision and the article should provide the materials for the reader to make up their own mind rather than serving as something that pushes somebody's value judgment on the readers. Tarafuku10 (talk) 14:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
If you can't post here without casting personal bias attacks, then I won't be responding to you again. Please review assume good faith and no personal attacks. I am only trying to enforce the policy that we can only write about what we can reference. To state that I view something as hypocritical, am attempting to mislead readers, or am removing negativity is not only wrong, your posts have become a bit too contentious for my taste. And next time, check your spelling before you save a change to the article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I do not intend any personal attack. I just gave you the feedback which resulted from my impression I got from your edit to illustrate the point I am making. You wrote that “I am only trying to enforce the policy that we can only write about what we can reference.” This is exactly what I believe I am doing as well. From the beginning of the discussion, my point is that what we can reference from the video is that she defends the aboriginal whaling and you are trying not to be articulate about it for fear of that it might be interpreted as hypocritical, which I believe is over-protecting and is not encyclopedia-like. You are not answering or addressing this point. I’ll revert your edit again. Could you please answer or address my point before you edit back again? If we could not reach the agreement in the next exchange or so, I believe we should bring in the comment process. Tarafuku10 (talk) 16:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC) Sorry. I just realised you haven't reverted my edit. And thank you for fixing my typo.Tarafuku10 (talk) 16:57, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Discography

{{editsemiprotected}} A song charting on the Billboard Pop 100 at #97 is equivalent to #125 on the Bilboard Hot 100.For example "It's Alright It's Ok" charted at #99 on the Hot 100 and #71 on the Pop 100.Those are calculated by 27 between them always. Fridacry (talk) 09:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Question: Do you have a reference that shows this? Also, what is it you want changed? Josh Parris 09:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Italian herritage

Her last name means Baker in Italian, so that makes her of Italian ancestry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.237.217 (talk) 18:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

yes she is italian-american that needs to be added from her fathers side i think maybe her mums someone should look it up Veggiegirl (talk) 14:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

German obviously. Vogel, from "Vögel," meaning "bird." A most common German surname. Also, Italy and Germany have had an extremely close brotherhood ever since the times of ancient Rome, so to be half German and half Italian is a very common thing as relations between the two are very good. In fact, Italians even gave Germany its name -- from the Italian word "germani," meaning "brothers." 216.185.250.92 (talk) 11:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that "panettiere" and "baker" have the same meaning. "Panettiere" is one who sells bread but does not bake it; one who bakes and sells bread (or bakes it without selling it) is called "fornaio" or "panificatore" instead. Usually "baker" is translated as "fornaio" or "panificatore" in Italian, while "panettiere" could be roughly translated as "bread-seller" or "bakery shop assistant" (actually I'm not sure such a job exists in English-speaking countries, while it's common in Italy). I'd also add that Panettiere is an extremely rare, almost unexisting surname in Italy; maybe it's a mispelling for Panettieri (the plural form, that is "bread-sellers"), which is a rare Southern Italian surname. 95.245.232.175 (talk) 01:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

That is entirely possible--and likely--if her family immigrated during any periods of massive immigration in our history. Surnames were constantly misspelled by immigration workers. Panettiere is an understandable permutation of Panettieri. 68.40.78.11 (talk) 07:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation of last name

does it sound like panty-air? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.208.251.23 (talk) 02:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC) Hell no. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.113.102 (talk) 04:26, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Given that it is Italian, proper pronunciation would be "pa-neh-TYARE-ay". 216.185.250.92 (talk) 11:31, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Given that she's American, the "proper" Italian pronunciation is essentially irrelevant unless she's visiting the old country. Varlaam (talk) 02:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Relationship with Wladimir Klitschko

There are pics and news that she was seen with Klitschko with a ring on her ring finger. Please find some sources and update the personal life section. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.222.217.47 (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

And are your fingers broken? Please see WP:RS before you stick something in. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Personal life- Vivere Senze Rimpianti

The article erroneously translates this phrase as "To Live Without Regrets". While "vivere" is indeed the infinitive, in this case it represents the imperative tense. The phrase should be translated as an imperative: "Live Without Regrets" ETomeny (talk) 20:30, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Missing film

There's a film starring her that isn't on her filmography. All I have is the name of one character (Jo) and four scenes cut from very different parts of the film. Near as I can tell, Hayden plays a girl with a sheltered background and low social status who meets an older fellow in a bar and goes on a roadtrip with him. He is turned on by her and she reciprocates, most likely because it's the first time someone has found her attractive. They're about to have sex, but he decides to withdraw.

The clip does not give the name of Hayden's character or the name of the of the male actor's character, and I do not recognize him, or the actress who plays "Jo." Does anyone know this movie?

The clip can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mna-MB81kJo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.170.156 (talk) 02:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Update: Is it from The Architect? --121.44.170.156 (talk) 02:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Every girlfriend should dress like that; there should be a law.
That top is visible here, The Architect (film), as you've indicated.
Joe is Walton Goggins and his IMDb photo is funnier.
Varlaam (talk) 15:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation, again

You can hear her pronounce her own name on the Scream 4 commentary track, and it's not what we have.
She does not articulate 2 final syllables; she treats the 'i' as a semi-vowel.
Considering how much trouble this one seems to present, whatever WP settles on really needs to be cited properly.
Varlaam (talk) 15:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Minor correction to an Archives 1 statement

In the "Italian heritage" [sic] section, 68.40.78.11 (talk) posted on 07:51, 8 November 2010 that:

That is entirely possible [the misspelling of her surname in the USA]--and likely--if her family immigrated during any periods of massive immigration in our history. Surnames were constantly misspelled by immigration workers. Panettiere is an understandable permutation of Panettieri.

That US customs agents altered the names of immigrants at ports of entry is a popular genealogical myth, easily dismissed with a small amount of Internet searching. Sorry, folks, the immigrants created any name changes themselves, either before or after arriving in the USA.

This information isn't directly about Ms Pantettiere, true, but the Archives 1 misstatement did present a teachable moment. Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Hayden's hair

Ms Panettiere first came to my attention when she appeared in Malcolm in the Middle. I have not seen her in any of her subsequent projects. Now, I understand about using wigs and hairstyling as a way to define a character, so I wonder if the cascade of curls that she wore on that TV show was her own hair? If so, was it the way she was born or was it styled that way for her character?

Thank you for indulging my curiosity, Wordreader (talk) 20:13, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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Singles vs Albums??

I just updated information regarding some Nashville songs. Does anyone have any suggestions, when it comes to dating these things? For example, if she did a song that aired in one year, but then the album gets released in another year - what year do you put? And to further add to it, what if the video and digital download(single) was released one year, but it did not appear on an album until the next?

It technically would have been released in the previous year, but it doesn't get released on an album until the next.

It really is possible that a song could be released in 3 different years - airdate/next-day-youtube-video, single, album. I just don't want to put out misinformation or generally accepted practices? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:983:8001:5B1E:30E5:4507:7D3D:6070 (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

The page image

Since it not only dates from 2009 but actually appears twice on the page, isn't it time there was a more recent image of her up top? Cindylover1969 (talk) 02:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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