Talk:Hay War Memorial High School

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 10:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that when the Governor-General of Australia, Lord Stonehaven, visited Hay War Memorial High School in 1926, he called it the "finest war memorial in the British Empire"? Source:
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Created by Siegfried Nugent (talk). Self-nominated at 07:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hay War Memorial High School; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is fine, long enough, with no evident issues, copyvio or plagiarism. Strictly speaking, the nomination is a day late (created 24 October, so should in theory have been nominated before the end of 31 October), but I'm happy to be flexible on that rule if the promoting admin agrees. QPQ not strictly required, as the nominator has three DYK credits. However, I'm not sure about the quotation: it's quoted as if verbatim in the 1940 source, but the primary report from 1926 has what seems to be a very close paraphrase: "[he said that] the mayor had met him at the aerodrome and said that he wanted to show him the finest war memorial in the state, he thought he might have said, the Empire". It sounds like the precise wording of the quote has been polished up over time, and is unlikely to be exactly what Stonehaven said. I'm satisfied that Stonehaven said words to that effect, but not happy with it as a direct quote: could we paraphrase to something like "said it was the finest war memorial in the British Empire"? UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 14:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

• I agree about the issues with the exact provenance of the quotation, it took me a while to research the quote as there were various versions of it published over the years. Following a review, I think its definite that he called it the "finest in the Empire" (there's another reference here a few days after his visit). How about we alter the hook to: ... that when the Governor-General of Australia, Lord Stonehaven, visited Hay War Memorial High School in 1926, he called the war memorial the "finest in the Empire"? Siegfried Nugent (talk) 23:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
  • In that source, we've got an indirect statement from the mayor, saying that "His Excellency [Stonehaven] had said that he might have said it was the best in the Empire". Separately, he's clearly talking about the school itself, so we need to cut the war memorial. I think it's best to go with a paraphrase: perhaps:

ALT1: ... that the Governor-General of Australia, Lord Stonehaven, called Hay War Memorial High School the finest war memorial in the British Empire? (edited: better to spell out British Empire, I think). UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 06:18, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

That's fine, I'm happy with that. Let's go with that hook.Siegfried Nugent (talk) 20:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Approved for ALT1. Good work and thank you for your patience and good humour with the review. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 20:07, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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