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Shouldn't 'The junction is located in Queens, east of the East River Tunnels and next to Amtrak’s Sunnyside Yard' read 'West of the East River Tunnels' since the junction is in Queens and east of the East River Tunnels would put it in Manhattan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:19C:4702:7643:E121:F76E:ABBD:1032 (talk) 19:19, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Update after[edit]

@Jhawkinson: The reason I made this edit is that the claim doesn't become outdated until after the end of 2022. You wrote in your edit summary, "Return update after to Dec. 18, one week before Christmas. If we don't know whether ESA will be complete this year by the week before Christmas, then it won't be complete this year (or the Update After date can be then extended)." However, December 18 is an arbitrary date, and it's quite possible that the MTA doesn't announce the opening date until the very last second. There is no need to extend the {{update after}} template if we set it to the end of 2022 - if the end of the year comes and goes without anything happening, then the claim will need to be updated, anyway. Epicgenius (talk) 01:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Sure. But there's no requirement that we wait until a fact is necessarily obsolete before we can update it. It's an editorial judgment as to when is the right time to do the update. And it is similarly an editorial judgment as to what date we put in the {{Update after}}, which is guidance to editors. There's nothing wrong with an arbitrary date in such a fashion.

Now, if you want to say to me, "Your editorial judgment is wrong. Mine is better." then I guess you can say that. It doesn't seem to be supported though, and I didn't think you were saying that.

Instead I thought you were saying, "The right date to put in Update after is always after something becomes obsolete, not when we have enough information to come back and check if it is obsolete," and that's not my understanding. I think it would be much wiser for us to come back and review this article before the end of the year, when we likely will know how to update the text, than to wait until we know it's going to be obsolete in January. I hope that is clear (I fear it's not). Thanks. jhawkinson (talk) 01:22, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jhawkinson, thanks. Your reasoning makes sense, actually - now that I'm rereading your edit summary, you're right that we would probably know by mid-December whether ESA would open this year. I just made that edit because I thought the article would definitely be out of date in January, rather than merely probably being out of date.

In any case, in the long run, this is a minor issue. The tag will appear anyway unless the page is updated by the end of the year, and if someone does update the page, the tag could just be removed. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:01, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Track Diagram third-rail / catenary power[edit]

The diagram is labeled "Third rail begins/ends (Amtrak)" and "Catenary begins/ends (LIRR) ."

However, lirr uses 3rd rail power and amtrack uses overhead power, the reverse implied by these labels. Am I misinterpreting it? Is it wrong or just unclear? Elifeye1 (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]