Talk:Grey Gowrie/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 16:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I can take a look at this! — GhostRiver 16:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• "he turned it down, causing some scandal when he said that the salary of £33,000 was not enough to live on in London, despite being three times the average salary in the city." seems WP:UNDUE, since this was only given one sentence in the body - this was included as it was a point which followed the subject for years after, but indeed, in the overall context, perhaps not lede material and so removed.

Life

Early life and education

• End the WL after just "Alexander Hore-Ruthven" - done
• Properly disambiguate Lough Derg - as no source is clear on which Lough Derg, simply removed, sentence simplified.
• "at which point he became" → "at which point Gowrie became" - done.

Titles and university

• Rather than parentheses around "the Scottish lordship", that can be made into a separate sentence - done.

Academic and art dealer

• Replace hyphen and spaces with new sentence after "National Gallery of Ireland" - done.
• Link to National Gallery of Art for the Washington museum - done.

Political career

• When was he appointed a Conservative whip? - done, and merged with another point.
• Comma after "said of him" - done.
• No italics are needed around the ministerial posts - done.
• "(deputy to the Secretary of State)" → "a deputy position to the Secretary of State," - clarified.
• Pipe "IRA hunger strikes" to 1981 Irish hunger strike - done.
• "Thatcher appointed him" → "Thatcher appointed Gowrie" - done.
• hyphens to en dash after "broader political philosophy" - done.
• Per MOS:ELLIPSIS, three dots are used rather than two - done.
• Split sentence after "he could "electrify education"." - done.
• "working in such posts, a claim that caused" → "working in such posts. The claim caused" - done.
• Among whom did it cause agitation? - the sources refer to this vaguely, at most to "public disquiet / agitation / negativity" so I reworded in that direction.

Later career

• Hyphen and spaces to comma after "Arts Council of England" - done.
• The sentence with the direct quote about "the appointment of a Scott" should have a citation immediately following, per MOS:INTEGRITY - removed, and a similar but earlier quotation inserted into the Northern Ireland section - with direct citation.
• There's something of a punctuation jumble after "The book needed cutting, like a movie" - fixed.
• Dates for most of the events in the third paragraph would be appreciated - several added.

Writing

Early writings

• Comma needed after Postcard from Don Giovanni - done.

Heath and later writings

• "he received a heart transplant" → "Gowrie received a heart transplant" - done.
• Replace hyphen and spaces with em dash after "contains references to his illness" - done.
• Citation needed for "Collected Poems" - done.
• Make this all one paragraph to avoid having a one-sentence para - done.

Personal life

Residences

• "moved to the village of Llanfechain in what was formerly Montgomeryshire, the village being in the Welsh Marches" → "moved to the Welsh Marches village of Llanfechain, in what was formerly Montgomeryshire." - done.

Family

• I don't believe it's necessary to have a bulletpoint for only one child - done (this was from an early version of the article, in a style common in peerage articles, but agreed, no need.
• No comma needed after "1944 plot to assassinate Hitler" – current sentence construction makes it sound like he married Adelheid and Charlotte - done.

Friends

• Extra space between sentence and citation for the sentence ending "Johnson's first marriage" - done.
• For clarity, the part about finding out that he and Bacon had grown up in the same town should be placed before a separate sentence about Boris Johnson - done.
• ""The greatest journalist of my generation"." → ""[t]he greatest journalist of my generation"." - done.

Death

• No comma needed after "died after a long illness" - done.

References

• Good

General comments

• Photos N/A
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Earwig score looks good, all proper nouns and attributed direct quotes

Putting on hold now to allow nominator to address comments. Ping me with questions. — GhostRiver 17:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks GhostRiver for a thorough review. I have attempted to address each point. Most I have acted upon directly, while in 3-4 cases, I removed or reworked material to better the article as a whole. I hope this helps. SeoR (talk) 22:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Made one last tweak myself on a second read-through, and now it looks good! Happy to pass! — GhostRiver 22:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for a most precise and efficient GA process, GhostRiver, and for the supporting closing edit. I will continue to work on this article - I have found 2-3 new sources. Sorry for late reply, suddenly remote for the last working week. SeoR (talk) 10:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC)