Talk:Gregory Cromwell, 1st Baron Cromwell

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Date of death? Three sources give very different answers. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The date of Gregory Cromwell's death, 4 July 1551, is on his tomb in Launde abbey Chapel.--Madame Bonheur (talk) 23:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=61592851&PIpi=82338280

Date of birth? It's listed as 1520 here but as 1514 on the Elizabeth Wyckes's (mother's) page? Oisille (talk) 13:32, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The date of birth given in the article is c. 1520 an estimate based on evidence in contemporary sources. The exact year of birth of Gregory Cromwell is unknown, however, he was learning to read and write in 1528 and was also described as 'little' by his tutor in the same year. See the section 'Education' in the article for more information.--Madame Bonheur (talk) 21:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hm.....[edit]

Seems pretty factual, but might as well be titled In Henricum. I mean, nobody likes Henry VIII, but it's written like they're trying to convict him. Lots of Original research here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.254.128 (talk) 09:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Seymour - Form of address before her marriage to Gregory Cromwell[edit]

Elizabeth Seymour was known as Lady Ughtred when she was married to Sir Anthony Ughtred circa 1531 and continued to be addressed as Lady Ughtred, as his widow, from December 1534 until her remarriage to Gregory Cromwell in 1537 when she was addressed as Elizabeth Cromwell.--Madame Bonheur (talk) 23:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.debretts.com/forms-of-address/titles/knight/wife-of-a-knight.aspx

Thomas Cromwell's Father/Step-father[edit]

The accounts of Cromwell's early life by Chapuys, Pole and Bandello "complement rather than contradict each other, although with one interesting exception. Cromwell's father was a 'smith' (Chapuys) but a 'cloth shearer' (Pole, Bandello). Foxe clarifies the matter with the information that Cromwell 'was born in Putney or thereabouts, being a smith's son, whose mother married a shearman'. So the smith was Cromwell's natural father and the shearman (or shearer) was the step-father...

So it is not certain whether Cromwell was the name of the father or the step-father."

Source: John Schofield, 'The Rise and Fall of Thomas Cromwell: Henry the VIII's Most Faithful servant', 2011, p. 13

The Acts and Monuments of John Foxe, ed. S.R. Cattley, 1838, vol. v, p. 362

http://archive.org/stream/actsmonumentsofj05foxe#page/362/mode/1up/search/cromwell

--Madame Bonheur (talk) 23:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

excessively long / appositive commaS[edit]

This article is excessively long. It has far too much material about Gregory's father Thomas, who is of course the subject of a separate major article.

The writer of this article also makes the repeated grammatical mistake of omitting the necessary second comma in appositive phrases such as "his father, Thomas was a powerful man".

JamesD'Alexander (talk) 12:02, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]