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Citations?[edit]

There are some references in the article to authors and page numbers that don't have corresponding titles. What works are these from? I have replaced them with {{citation needed}} for the time being. ... discospinster talk 17:59, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Off-topic sections[edit]

To me, it seems like much of the article's text is off-topic. It doesn't deal with the phrase "good hair" specifically. Rather, it meanders through various topics regarding physical characteristics associated with black and white race in the United States. I've seen the film Imitation of Life (both versions) and the phrase "good hair" is not mention once. In fact, I don't think the word "hair" is even uttered. Nor is blackface part of the topic "good hair" except in the tangential sense that both touch upon race and appearance in different ways. I think it's a straightforward decision to delete that stuff, but since I'm planning significant cuts, I figured it would be prudent to bring it up on the Talk page in case others have contrary views. --JamesAM (talk) 00:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

yeah! I'm not an African-American person but this article really needs some sources. I clicked the three available online. One was a music video on youtube. One was a dead link. And one was a book on Google books. I searched the book for "good hair" and it was not found.

Does "good hair" really mean something different and specific to African Americans or do they just consider a specific type of hair to be good? I have seen the Chris Rock documentary but I don't remember the phrase being discussed.

I know that straight White-like hair can be considered good and the sources reflect this, but can anyone confirm that phrase "good hair" "is a colloquial phrase used within the African American community... [and] has such a potent history within the African American community... [citation needed!]" Is this really a phrase or are they just saying that the hair is good; not calling it "good hair"? Should this article really be titled "African-American hair (culture)" or "perception of straight versus natural hair on African-Americans in America"? Perhaps somebody just wanted to write an article about that and poorly chose the title based on the Chris Rock movie and thus worded the (unsourced) introduction to fit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.79.89.129 (talk) 14:25, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Photo requested[edit]

There are two images in this article, both of people with "afro-textured" hair, i.e. not what is considered "good hair". —Mahāgaja · talk 05:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coincidentally, I thought the same thing. It's bizarre, to say the least, to have two photographs of something the article isn't about! ——Serial # 13:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was confused because the images were at odds with the description. A photograph would make it easy to understand (by way of visualisation) what is being described. 122.148.227.2 (talk) 18:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Roadmap for Fixing[edit]

I added an invisible roadmap for fixing this page. I will place it here instead for discussion.

This page is severely flawed, and I support the nomination for deletion if it cannot be turned into a proper article. But maybe this will help if someone is interested in reconstructing it.

<-- History -->

<-- This page needs a historical examination of good hair in various societies, and how their perceptions of good hair has both evolved, and in some ways, stayed the same. Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome... to the Renaissance... to early America. Perhaps something like this page structurally https://www.hairclub.com/blog/brief-history-hair-identity-self-expression-impact-hair-loss/ but more specifically tailored to "good hair" and properly cited. -->

<-- Modern -->

<-- This is where what is now considered good hair today can be evaluated. In America, this has changed even decade by decade -- good 80s hair is sure different from good 2000s hair. Focus on the trends that have changed rapidly, but also highlight what has been consistently considered good hair even in the context of changing stylistic preferences. -->

<-- Scientific -->

<-- This is where both the history and the modern context can be reconciled. What is the objective science behind what is considered good hair, in terms of health and/or attraction? Like a peacock and its feathers, what do certain types of hair represent in humans? Is there an evolutionary advantage to straight, silky, smooth hair, or is it entirely a cultural construct? What about baldness? Without the actual science, this article will fall flat. --> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.15.163 (talk • contribs)

This is an article about a specific cultural phenomenon in the African-american community. It should not be broadened to be about 'nice hair' in general. - MrOllie (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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