Talk:Gemeinschaft and Gesellschaft

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Section on Women Needs Work[edit]

More than that -- I find it utterly bizarre and out of place. It talks about a book by Porter Brown that has no relevance to the topic. Misogynistic stereotypes about good and bad women are everywhere, and have no special relevance to the topic of "Gemeinschaft" vs. "Gesellschaft". The connection is too weak for this paragraph to remain in this article -- its inclusion looks like an act of the free association of ideas, nothing more. If there is any reason to keep a paragraph like this, it needs to be extensively revised to make it more on point. 24.134.112.93 (talk) 09:06, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This article does a good job, I think, of explaining these related terms in a sociological context, but doesn't it need some discussion of how the terms evolved in, for example, the work of Hegel? Did the meanings or understanding of the terms evolve later?jackbrown 20:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia?[edit]

So would it be accurate to characterize the regular editors of Wikipedia as a Gesellschaft? —Dgies^t c 09:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, I should like to agree: Wikipedia is overwhelmingly “gesellschaft”, most contributors using it for their own goals.
But, as it happens very often in gesellschafts, the contributors prefer to think of themselves as friends or the like, i.e. as members of a “gemeinschaft”. And, to a degree, it works. Remember, in real social life gemeinschaft and gesellschaft always co-exist. Only as theoretical concepts, they are contradictory. -- €pa 00:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In need of Cleanup[edit]

There is something wrong with the text at the beggining of the article in the main page. It reads:

"Tönnies' concepts of both Gemeinscha (SIC) “Gemeinschaft und Gesellschaft” (1887).[1] Seven more German editions came out during his life time, the last 1935.[2] The second edition of 1912 turned out to be an unexpected but lasting success[3], and the antagonism of these two terms belonged to the general stock of concepts German pre-1933 intellectuals were quite familiar with and quite often misunderstood."

It doesn't make much sense in itself and it has little conexion with the previous sentence. Please take a look and correct.

Geopolitical Analysis 20:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC) . I strongly believe that in german Europäische Gemeinschaft and Europäische Union are two distinct institutions, so the argument under the Outside sociology header can do with a cleanup — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimvotes (talk • contribs) 20:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary ?[edit]

ain't that more an article for Wiktionary 16:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)16:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)16:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.216.89.205 (talk)

Quite off the point. “Gemeinschaft und Gesellschaft” by Ferdinand Tönnies (1887) is a key work of sociology. - €pa (talk) 00:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Small Comment[edit]

I came across this word in the Times this morning. I came here to find its meaning. (So yes, I welcome its inclusion.) But I did not come acorss the synonym "Community" until I waded in fairly deep. Perhaps this ought to be moved to paragraph one? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 10:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Which is the function of the section dedicated to uses outside of Sociology?[edit]

Dear all,

I am writing to ask about the reason of the section dedicated to the use of the word Gesellschaft outside of sociology.

It does not refer to Gesellschaft as a concept created by Ferdinand Toennis but rather to the German word itself and the way it is used. In my opinion it does not make any sense.

This is my first contribution to Wikipedia. I hope I am respecting all the rules. Congratulations for this project and thanks in advance for taking my comment into consideration.

Best regards,

Animal Symbolicum — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnimalSymbolicum (talk • contribs) 13:15, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]