Talk:Garvey's Ghost

duppy/dub

Despite the title of the album, the sentence about the word dub in this context being derived from duppy (a more common spelling than the "duppie" used here) doesn't belong here in an article about an individual dub album, the same reference is also in the article on Dub Music, where it probably needs to be qualified because it's almost certainly nonsense. The connection is extremely speculative and any connection between "duppy" (as opposed to "ghost") and "dub" (which isn't explicit anywhere in the record or its packaging) would almost certainly long post-date the use of "dub" to describe this kind of mixing. There are much more convincing explanations that it came from "running off a dub" onto an acetate. For instance Steve Barrow quotes producer Bunny Lee thus: "Yeah...it was really VERSION those days - it wasn't dub yet, beca' it was jus' the riddim. One day a incident: Ruddy's (sound system operator Ruddy Redwood) was cutting a dub, an' when it start Smithy (studio engineer Byron Smith) look like 'im start bring on the voice and Ruddy's say: no, mek it run and 'im take the whole backing track off it. 'Im say, alright, run it again, and put in the voice..." In other words, they were already using the word dub in the late 1960s for cutting an acetate of a song stripped down to its backing track, for exclusive use on a sound system and it simply stuck when the likes of King Tubby started using more creative mixing techniques for such versions. These acetates are also called "dub plates" and they aren't by any means always "dub" in the sense of creative mixing with echo etc., which kind of negates the "ghost" aspect. So I'm removing that sentence.Freewheeling frankie (talk) 12:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

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Production Notes

What does this even mean? I've tried reading it over and over again and it makes no sense to me at all. As it's also unreferenced I'm removing the whole section.