Talk:Gaius Marius (consul 82 BC)

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It is an anachronism to say that Marius was in the "Republican democratic" party in Rome. There were no political parties, only factions, and none of them were democratic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.139.22 (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

fact or fantasy?[edit]

If this is not pure fantasy, it needs to be supported: "His cousin Caesar always thought highly of him and his father (except perhaps when the elder Marius forced a socially constricting priesthood on young Caesar, fruitlessly trying to prevent Caesar's eventual outstripping of his own fame)." Caesar's nomination as flamen is perplexing, but it's more likely that Sulla was the one trying to simultaneously honor and render him politically impotent with the appointment; see Ronald T. RIdley, “The Dictator’s Mistake: Caesar’s Escape from Sulla,” Historia 49 (2000) 211–229. Cynwolfe (talk) 01:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Primary sources tag[edit]

I've tagged this as relying too much on primary sources. There are some sections which are entirely primary sources. The sources that are cited are very close to primary sources (Duncan's Storm and Smith's Dictionary): they do little critical analysis of those sources and should not be seen as very far away from them. If anything I'd say they'd be 1.5-sources, contra secondary = 2-sources, if such a thing existed. Some reworking here is necessary. Ifly6 (talk) 03:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does this even mean?[edit]

Unclear what this even means. During the Social War, he served under Lucius Porcius Cato, which one source claims Marius killed at the Battle of Fucine Lake over Cato's claims that Cato's achievements were on par with the elder Marius's victory over the Cimbri. If someone could clarify that'd be nice. Ifly6 (talk) 15:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]