Talk:GMC Hummer EV

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Weight?[edit]

Anyone knows?LS (talk) 10:33, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not revealed yet, so any figure given now is speculation. --Vossanova ^o< 12:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The three-motor Hummer EV would possibly be a Class 3 truck, according to MC&T. This would give it a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 10,001 to 14,000 pounds (4,536 to 6,350 kilograms)^[1] 😱--LS (talk) 13:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Three-Motor GMC Hummer EV May Be In Same GVWR Class As Silverado 3500". Motor1.com. Retrieved 2020-12-16.

Very important question! And in particular, the weights of the accumulators as intended to be used in the different Hummer-EV-variants are important. --84.190.197.92 (talk) 21:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

USPTO filing[edit]

GM has filed for a logo for the Hummer EV. The image used is being reported as [1] -- 67.70.32.97 (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1 of 1 section[edit]

it seems kind of like an advert in my opinion so may I add an advert tag? --69.27.252.242 (talk) 14:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1 of 1 section[edit]

Sure it's Wikipedia make any changes :) 37.172.230.4 (talk) 20:11, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Picture[edit]

I took this picture of a Hummer EV. I think it may be better than the current picture because it is less grainy. I'm not too familiar with Wiki's guidelines for car images so can anyone else look at the pictures and replace the photos if need be? Thanks

--UltraTech66 (talk) 05:33, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Predecessor[edit]

I see all three Hummer models are listed as predecessors. While perhaps the Hummer brand could be considered an inspiration and a predecessor to the Hummer EV, I don't believe any particular model can. So should we list the brand as a predecessor? Or just leave it blank with a comment? --Vossanova ^o< 18:53, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I don't think the Hummer EV can truly be called a successor to any of the prior Hummer models, especially the H1. In my opinion, however, it would be most appropriate to list the H2 as a predecessor, as it is the most similar to the Hummer EV in size and price, adjusted for inflation. 42-BRT (talk) 02:06, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns in recent edits[edit]

Pinging HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk · contribs) as the recent contributor.

The article's gone through some changes and it seems like they took a different approach than before. While I am not against adding criticism against the vehicle in the article, but I think the positioning and weight of concerns/criticisms in this article strikes me as WP:UNDUE, as another editor had mentioned. For instance, it is very rare that an automobile Wikipedia article mentions "danger" in the first paragraph and "kill" on the other. While the dangers and other concerns are indeed supported by sources, the GMC Hummer EV is not subject from defects that has resulted in recalls and actual deaths of unlike the Ford Pinto.

Typically, the Overview section of an automobile article would begin with the vehicle's introduction, design, purpose, and other relevant details. However, in the current version of the article, the Overview section begins by discussing the vehicle's weight, followed by questions regarding its emissions, efficiency, and greenwashing practices, then its potential dangers to pedestrians, before finally addressing the vehicle's specifications. Not to mention, the current Overview section becomes quite challenging to read due to its long, uninterrupted paragraph. Any particular reason why didn't you split the section into multiple paragraphs?

My suggestion would be to either give less weight to the criticism so as not to alarm the readers (as in, "why is this article so tendentious?" "why does Wikipedia mentions so many of its criticisms instead of its design and specs?" "an editor must hate the truck a lot..." it happened, before) or to place it in a separate section altogether.

As a side note, I noticed you might have a bias against large vehicles, looking through your edit summaries. Andra Febrian (talk) 16:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mainstream reliable sources have extensively focused on these aspects of this vehicle. It would be a violation of WP:NPOV to not include such information. I have also added other information such as the capacity of the cargo area, since that is what sources report. It is not my responsibility as an editor to add every single thing to an article myself, if others wish to expand the article using reliable sources they are welcome to do so. Personally I think most car articles on Wikipedia come off as having a very pro-automobile bias, most likely because the editors of such articles tend to be fans of the articles' subjects (the Porsche 928 article comes to mind as an example that was particularly bad when I encountered it). HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that current structuring of the article is somewhat messy, as my focus has primarily been on adding sources and summarising what they have to say rather than trying to format everything neatly, given that before I started working on this article it essentially just read like a sales brochure for the product in question. That being said, I think the structuring of automotive articles generally on Wikipedia tends to be rather inconsistent and it's often hard to fathom which information should go where in an article until it has been expanded enough that restructuring the article becomes a significant task. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image[edit]

This has been a subject of disagreement and frequent revision (a borderline edit war), so I think it'd be best to further discuss here, rather than repeatedly revert. Most versions of this article have pictured only the Truck in the infobox, which I would argue is insufficient, as it represents only one of the vehicle's two variants. Others have placed an image of the SUV there, which similarly does not represent the Truck. Neither can be described as the "primary" variant of the vehicle, so neither can adequately represent the Hummer EV at-a-glance in the infobox. The solution I employed was to include images of both variants (as is precedented in articles discussing vehicles with multiple variants - see New Flyer Low Floor) with a caption accordingly describing both. 42-BRT (talk) 01:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Three-Motor GMC Hummer EV May Be In Same GVWR Class As Silverado 3500". Motor1.com. Retrieved 2020-12-16.

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