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Timey-Wimey...stuff[edit]

• Firstly, not sure how the Doctor-Ruth should be distinguished from the (13th) Doctor. I have called the former "the Doctor-Ruth" and the latter as just "the Doctor". But please feel free to discuss this.

• Not sure if we can "definitively" call the Doctor-Ruth a past incarnation. In the episode, both claim to not know the other which means: 1) they are in neither one's past or future, 2) one of them is living a lie (as possibly hinted by the Master), 3) they are both alternate reality versions of each other. Personally, I think this should be left as open-ended as possible since this might later be explained later in the series. I believe the first one (which is what I wrote in the summary) is the best way to go about it for now. Just treat the now-confusing situation as they were presented in the episode. --Afong10 (talk) 05:54, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did wonder if Ruth might be a regeneration of the cloned Tenth Doctor from "Journey's End" as that would explain why neither Ruth or the Thirteenth Doctor would have prior knowledge of each other's existence. Also, as part of continuity I wonder if it's worth mentioning the previous occasion on which the Doctor hid as a human; that was the Tenth Doctor as well. This is Paul (talk) 00:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think, as of the series finale, we can absolutely say Ruth is definitively The Doctor.--Aresef (talk) 17:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jo Martin's Doctor in the infobox[edit]

In response to reversion of my WP:BOLD edit by Alex 21, and the corresponding discussion at Talk:The Name of the Doctor#John Hurt in infobox, I have created a central discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who#Infobox Doctors with the aim to clarify the project consensus and have a clear record of that. Cheers, U-Mos (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sidebar[edit]

Jo Martin was credited as Ruth and then given an "introducing" credit as the Doctor. For a good third of the episode, she's playing The Doctor. The page for Twice Upon a Time lists three Doctors--Capaldi, Bradley and Whittaker and The Time of the Doctor lists both Smith and Capaldi. The Two Doctors lists both Baker and Troughton. I'll grant that The Name of the Doctor lists Hurt under others, but his appearance is more of a cameo than anything. Seeing as this is in the infobox for multi-Doctor stories (and Name of the Doctor isn't) and given how the credits read, I submit that we should list Jo Martin twice. Just call her The Doctor, using the generic page, until her Doctor gets an official numbering/name from the BBC--Aresef (talk) 19:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lighthouse[edit]

Which lighthouse was this filmed at? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:34, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can find from fan websits and the South Wales Argus that it was at West Usk Lighthouse BUT nothing that reliably says that. --Masem (t) 20:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:Blue, I've added an image. I'm not clear why you think SWA is not reliable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images that may be of use[edit]

Hello, I have uploaded three images onto Commons of the BBC production set at Gloucester Cathedral during the filming of this episode. Might they be of use to this article somewhere? They are here, here, and here. Mojo0306 (talk) 16:19, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]