Talk:For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

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Plot Origin[edit]

Wasn't this originally an sf short-story? I looked at various websites, but didn't see any mention of that. I'm hoping you wikipedians might know. thanks! Geetu m

From Memory Alpha (linked in the article); "The idea of a multi-generational ship or "interstellar ark" is an old one that was proposed in an unpublished paper by Robert Goddard in 1918. Goddard's fellow rocket pioneers Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and J.D. Bernal also considered the idea in the 1920s. Olaf Stapledon and Don Wilcox wrote stories about the idea in the 1940s, and Robert Heinlein originated the notion that inhabitants might forget they were on a ship in his book Orphans of the Sky. The energy, ecology, and life support needs required by such a ship would be considerable."

As there is no indication that these are directly used as any sort of inspiration for the script of this episode, I don't think we need to include that in the article itself. WikiuserNI (talk) 22:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Married[edit]

McCoy gets married in this episode, but there is no indication that he gets a divorce (and is still in love with his wife and vice-versa). Was a follow-up planned for this episode, where he meets up the with the asteroid-ship's crew as they disembark upon their new planet, where he would be re-united with his wife? I know if so, it had to be scrapped because this was aired during Star Trek's last season. But I'd just like to know if it was ever planned. Anyone know, or know where I could look? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 22:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, they say he is going to try to be there when the world ship reaches its destination in a year, but you know how men are :) Anyway, yes, it would have made for a nice story but none that we ever saw. I am surprised by the four critiques of the episode and none of them mention McCoy's conditional love, "I love you. Oh, I'm all better so I'm going to go along my merry way and that love apparently meant nothing." StarHOG (Talk) 16:05, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origin[edit]

Does anyone know the origin of the title of this episode? I know it's a reference to what the old man says in the episode, but it sounds like it might be a line from a poem or a song or something. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 04:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I get where you are coming from. Apparently, the phrase is original with this episode. For in the sense of because sounds rather poetic, so perhaps the writers wanted to create this impression. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:A858:E2B2:D1D9:6735 (talk) 15:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ship name[edit]

So I have a little dilemma with this article. Maybe someone can offer some advice. The plot originally describes Yonada as a generational ship, so as a ship, it should be italicized, Yonada, right? But it is a world to these people, so Kirk and company are welcome to explore the world of Yonada, not italicized. What to do, what to do? StarHOG (Talk) 16:07, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did the wife of a politician break a bottle of expensive champagne on it when it was about to set out? If so, it is a baptised "ship" and if not, it is primarily a small celestial object. Come one, everything is just a bunch of atoms. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:A858:E2B2:D1D9:6735 (talk) 15:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy?[edit]

I'm not sure where we got this 'Legacy' section which goes into great detail about other science fiction stories that have a similar plot. Spoiler Alert! This runs kind of rampant throughout storytelling - not just science fiction. Is it our intention to place a 'Legacy' section on every Star Trek episode page telling readers about similar stories in the world of science fiction? Besides that these lists could get pretty long, what 'value' is it offering our readers? StarHOG (Talk) 03:29, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think I know what legacy means, and I do not see how a novel that precedes the show by some 30 odd years could be considered its legacy. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:A858:E2B2:D1D9:6735 (talk) 15:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's certainly truth in that both of your comments. Upon watching this show again, I see some similarities between it and A Boy and his Dog: for instance, an underground civilization, a post-apocalyptic setting. Also, the Yonadans have been inbred for 10,000 years, and McCoy is selected... Also, I note the way the young women of Yonanda regard Kirk and Spock. It's almost as if Harlan Ellison, who had his differences with the Star Trek people, wrote a violent and explicit parody of this episode, using some of the elements that were too adult to mention. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric