Talk:Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament

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What about 2008 Summer Olympics squads articles? --Timurberk (talk) 13:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men's team squads – PeeJay 17:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dong Fangzhuo[edit]

Hi, I read that article about Chinese naming practices, but I saw nothing in there that said we have to refer to Dong by his full name. He was the only player by that name in the China squad for the Olympics, so his surname should suffice. After all, this is the English Wikipedia and we should do things the same way the English-language media do. By the way, here is an example of only Dong's surname being put on his shirt. – PeeJay 08:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, you just see the shirt names of Chinese, Koreans and Hongkonger in FIFA. Or read the templates of chinese clubs or koreans clubs. If you are in China or Korea, no body will call other people by surname. Are you lived in these country?? Hoising (talk) 08:46, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I lived in Singapore for 7 years, that's close enough. Anyway, I can tell this conversation is going to be futile, since you're obviously going to be as obdurate about this as you were with the Dutch names issue. – PeeJay 08:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Singapore ... LOL. Look at Singapore national football team, most people take his surname for shirt name since there are not chinese characters! Look at the templates:

this is the only method to identify Chinese people. Hoising (talk) 09:10, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But Dong DOES NOT NEED IDENTIFYING. He is the only one with that name in the squad, so there is NO NEED to put his given name. – PeeJay 09:22, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In this Olympic match in 7 August 2008, You can see the Z. for Zhuo in Dong Fangzhuo. Please respect all Chinese people. Don't take this as a joke. Hoising (talk) 09:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In my experience it is fairly common practice to use the full name in the context of teams or large groups of people with Chinese or Korean names. For this player at this tournament there might be no ambiguity, but for most instances there will be ambiguity for at least some members of the team, and thus the standard has developed. I'd err on the side of including the full name - it doesn't look particularly unusual or out of place to me. Knepflerle (talk) 12:50, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with changing it, just so long as we get a consensus about the issue. I resent people coming along and unilaterally altering content for which they have not achieved a consensus. – PeeJay 14:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stubborn guy finally woke. Hoising (talk) 05:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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