Talk:Fly Club

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If you know of a reliable source any of these people having been members of Fly, please supply the source and reinsert them in the article. Otherwise, please do not reinsert them.Dpbsmith (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted the entry for Theodore Roosevelt who quite famously belonged to the Porcellian Club and is listed in their alumni directory and on their Wikipedia page. This is why FDR thought he would be elected to the Porcellian. TR mentions the Porcellian in his biography. Karim Aga Khan, also quite famously, belonged to the Delphic Club not the Fly. He has mentioned it several times in interviews and is listed in their alumni directory. The source being used here - the "Catalogue of the Alpha Delta Phi Club of Harvard University, 1836-1902. Cambridge, Mass. Harvard University Press, 1902" covers the period before the Final Clubs broke from the national chapter of ADP. It includes members of the AD Club, the Fly Club and the Delphic Club and you must be careful when attributing membership to the Fly based just on that source. HansDieterUlrich (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstated entry for Theodore Roosevelt. The user who deleted this entry has a superficial grasp of final club history, particularly the histories of the Porcellian, A.D., and Fly. Theodore Roosevelt was a member of the Porcellian, yes, but he was also an active member of the Fly.

Both the A.D. Club and the Fly Club trace their roots to the establishment in 1836 of a Harvard sub-chapter of the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity founded at Hamilton College in 1832. In 1865, the Harvard sub-chapter surrendered its charter, continuing its existence as the A.D. Club. In 1879, several members initiated into the pre-1865 sub-chapter (notably Edward Everett Hale and Phillips Brooks), lamenting its discontinuation, initiated members of the Harvard Class of 1879 in accordance with the traditional rites, thus reviving their chapter. Initiates from the Class of 1880 included Theodore Roosevelt.

In 1906, the Harvard Chapter of Alpha Delta Phi once again surrendered its charter, continuing as the Alpha Delta Phi Club. In 1910, the name was changed to "Fly Club" in recognition of the club's long-held informal designation. The 1902 edition of the "Alpha Delta Phi Club" catalog was cited because it is to be found in the Theodore Roosevelt Collection of the Harvard College Library, a gift of the Roosevelt Memorial Association in 1943. (This 1902 catalog also lists the recently initiated Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Class of 1904.) Moreover, in June 1902, TR, then US president, attended a Fly Club banquet in honor of Edward Everett Hale, the ADP (now Fly Club) member who had initiated him. The banquet was held at Two Holyoke Place, the Fly's clubhouse since 1895. The banquet included FDR, TR's fifth cousin, a Harvard sophomore, and--along with his roommate--a member of the Fly.

The 1911 edition of the "Fly Club" (formerly Alpha Delta Phi Club) catalog is to be found in the New York Public Library. Both the 1902 edition and the 1911 edition of the catalog display the Fly Club emblem, a leopard rampant, on their covers. The 1911 edition, published on the 75th anniversary of the club's founding, lists TR, then age 53, as a member. TR lived until 1919 and undoubtedly would have protested had his name been misappropriated.TwoHolyokePlace (talk) 02:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]