Talk:Floating cities and islands in fiction

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I thought Cloud City was attached to the surface of Bespin by stalks. FinalWish 01:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Buoyancy only?[edit]

i don't see why floating cities only refers to Buoyancy. What about cities that actively hover or fly through the air by technological or magical means. Cloud City for example relies on active technology - not buoyancy - to keep it flying. Perhaps in time there needs to be another article named flying city or hover city, but until then Floating city should refer to all of these cities, not just ones relying on Buoyancy. Roidroid (talk) 03:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

floating on water[edit]

What about cities that float on the ocean? For instance, in Snow Crash, we have The Raft, a collection of lashed-together aircraft carriers, supertankers, etc. See also seasteading — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhiteDragon (talk • contribs) 17:27, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. See #Scope below, to which I'll add that example. But neither Seasteading nor Very large floating structure cover fictional depictions, as far as I can see. Andrewa (talk) 02:06, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 December 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Floating city (science fiction) → Floating cities and islands in fiction – It's clear that there is some overlap between the idea of a floating city and island (which has its own stub at Floating island (fiction)). It also doesn't only apply to science fiction, as it's a commonly used fantasy trope as well. This would be a more apt title that would incorporate both concepts. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. I believe there has also been speculation about real-life floating cities as well, but I don’t have the source. This would be like the discussion right now at Parallel universe (fiction), which is also about fictional use of a potential real-world topic. 2600:387:A:19:0:0:0:6A (talk) 23:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The difference is that floating cities are completely within the realm of fiction, or just thought experiments, as there is no known technology that can create a permanent airborne city, and water cities are covered at Very large floating structure. Parallel universe is a very special case of a fictional topic that may or may not be real.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:06, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Looks more natural, and the merge of "floating cities" and "floating islands" makes sense. — JFG talk 11:25, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Scope[edit]

I've performed the move as consensus was clear.

But I'd like to now ask some questions about the scope of the (renamed) article.

Firstly, does it cover water-borne cities and islands? If so there are a couple of ones I can suggest:

  • Mekonta, the Treen capital city on Venus in the Dan Dare serials in Eagle magazine
  • The natural floating coral island discovered and claimed by Scrooge McDuck in one of his Carl Barks authored and drawn adventures
    • The story is The Floating Island, first published July 1959 [1] Andrewa (talk) 02:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Raft in the novel Snow Crash (thanks to the unsigned contribution above for this one)

and I'm sure there are others. Andrewa (talk) 02:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking it should have a separate section for water and air floating cities. There is an article on real-life water cities, so it is definitely a notable topic. That said, anything added should be reliably sourced and not just original research. Google Books could help in that regard.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:42, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Andrewa (talk) 11:22, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also Spider Monkey Island in Hugh Lofting's “The Voyages Of Dr Dolittle”. Mr Larrington (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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