Talk:Flag of Hezbollah

Where is there a sword in the design? I don't see it. Andurz 05:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's no indication that the rifle is a "Kalashnikov". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmare (talk • contribs) 19:04, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Hezbollah (copyed from Talk:Hezbollah)[edit]

I think we all can agree upon that it is terribly annoying that we don't have a flag file for infoboxes. Numerous creative solutions have all been tried, unfortunately only to get spoiled because of complicated copyright laws in Lebanon.

Some time ago, we had the same problem with the South Lebanon Army. However, after my frustration had reached a critical level, I decided to email the Government of Free Lebanon in Jerusalem and kindly ask them so release the rights of a file on their website for educational purpose. I didn't really have to 'persuade' them in any sort of way, as they gave in surprisingly easily and even thanked me - that's how you get treated when you adress people in a polite way. The result? This. And it's free for all versions of Wikipedia, not just the English one. You bet I was pleased when I finally made it!

Now, I was thinking that maybe we could try the same thing here. First of all, we need an email adress. Second, we need someone to do the job. Personally, I must admit I have some problems with this organization and may subsequently find it harder to adress them in a polite way. If anyone else would be willing to make an attempt, I would be very pleased.

Anyone interested in making a leap to increase the quality of Wikipedia? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 22:30, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We need to know who the artist is. FunkMonk (talk) 22:39, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the name of the artist (which can be found on this page) is so essential as long as the copyrights belong to the organization itself. This is Hezbollah's official website, and an email adress should be there somewhere. Finding out how to contact them would be a start. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the less collaboration Wikipedia members have with Hezbollah, the better. --GHcool (talk) 15:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let there be no doubt that I oppose this organization utterly, which is why I don't want to contact them. However, I will not call it collaboration when we're simply asking for permission to upload their flag. It worked with the SLA, and it might work with Hezbollah as well - as long as anyone is willing to do the job. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 15:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hezbollah has less to gain from releasing such rights, the SLA is basically dead. As for collaboration, the IDF just released all their photos to Commons, so there's precedent with at least one party in the conflict. IDF images are now flooding every Arab/Israeli conflict article, could need some counterbalance. FunkMonk (talk) 16:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think they would lose anything by releasing the rights under the same license as the GFL did. Actually, I would rather think that spreading the flag would be in the organization's best interests - or at least they might think so if we try to persuade them in a polite way. I don't think making an attempt would hurt. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 17:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, their email address is english@moqawama.org. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 17:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problem is it would allow their enemies to use the logo for any purpose as well without being able to sue them. I don't think they'd agree with that. FunkMonk (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If they release it with the Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license, re-using will always require attribution. So they'd still be able to sue people who use it without attributing it back to its original owner.

By the way, is there any license that is specified for Wikipedia Commons only, and does not allow re-use? If such a thing existed, that would have been great. I don't happen to know to much about copyright laws, and unfortunately I have made a series of mistakes on Wikipedia Commons in the past. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 17:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such license, for whatever reason. FunkMonk (talk) 18:08, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Predicting the outcome does not really bring us anywhere. If anyone is willing to make an attempt I urge them to do so, and I am willing to help formulating an email in the same way as the request I sent to the GFL (even though it wouldn't have been sincerely from my part this time). You might wanna say that you support them and want to promote their ideas by uploading their flag to Wikipedia Commons, even if you might detest them indescribably much (and by the way, I know there are Wikipedians who support Hezbollah and should thereby have no problem emailing them). Empty infoboxes on articles about the battles of the 2006 Lebanon War are annoying, right? --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I got a friend in Lebanon that I asked would contact the local hezbollah office and ask for a press kit that contains a high res logo of the flag that can be used in media and websites such as wikipedia. They have told him that they would request one from the press office, when (and if) they do he will mail it to me and I'll update it with the logo. Gangamstyle (talk) 14:31, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You misunderstand, this is not about getting the picture itself, but about the license not being free, for all we know, and therefore we can't upload it to Commons. FunkMonk (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone explain why it is OK to use an image of the flag of Hezbollah in the Hezbollah article but not in this one? --Viennese Waltz 14:45, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We can only use it in a limited way under fair use. FunkMonk (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So why would it not be fair use to use it in this article? --Viennese Waltz 15:35, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone needs to include this page in the fair use rationale of the file. FunkMonk (talk) 15:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. Community Tech bot (talk) 02:27, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bad image list?[edit]

Why is this file on the bad image list? It's just a flag, not a gory or pornographic image. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 19:39, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RaphaelQS: ColorfulSmoke (talk) 04:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, I didn't nominate the image to be included in this list, but I would assume that it's because it's a terrorist organization according to the jurisdiction in which Wikipedia operates (United States of America). --RaphaelQS (talk) 15:31, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]