Talk:Farmington Canal Heritage Trail

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we have resources: http://www.farmingtoncanal.org/ maps seems little obsolete but is there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.13.114 (talk) 03:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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alternate names for Farmington Canal Heritage Trail[edit]

Due to its being adjacent to the tracks of the New Haven and Northampton Railroad, this is also referred to by a variety of names such as:

  • New Haven and Northampton Canal Greenway
  • New Haven and Northampton Greenway
  • New Haven & Northampton Canal Rail Trail
  • New Haven / Northampton Railroad Canal Line
  • New Haven–Northampton Railroad Greenway
  • Northampton-to-New Haven rail trail

I didn't think we would want to pollute the article name space with all the possible redirects, but nor did I feel knowledgeable enough to choose from among them. Fabrickator (talk) 21:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fabrickator: It's fine to create redirects for any names that are used elsewhere - see Wikipedia:Redirects are cheap. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have dropped "Northampton Canal Park Trail" from the list above, that turns out to be "Northampton, PA" rather than "Northampton, MA". Fabrickator (talk) 03:55, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Fabrickator @Pi.1415926535
I just saw this discussion after creating New Haven and Northampton Canal Greenway in support of the Mass Central Rail Trail page.
Please help me build consensus on the path forward. According to The New Haven & Northampton Canal Greenway Alliance, The Farmington Canal Heritage Trail is recognized by CTDOT, whereas everything in Massachusetts (Southwick Rail Trail, Columbia Greenway Rail Trail, Southampton Greenway, Manhan Rail Trail, New Haven Northampton Canal Line) is not recognized by CTDOT. https://sites.google.com/view/nhncg/mileage
Similarly, the official website seems to not include Massachusetts: https://fchtrail.org/
I can modify Farmington Canal Heritage Trail to be CT specific if this is agreed. Thanks! Rocketwidget (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer having a single article that covers the whole length (New Haven-Northampton) so that all the relevant history is in one place. "New Haven and Northampton Canal Greenway" is probably the correct title for that. Having separate articles for the Connecticut section, a portion of the Connecticut section, and one of the Massachusetts sections just results in the information being scattered and inconsistent. Also pinging @Trainsandotherthings: who's the expert here on the railroad. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Much of the line in Connecticut is part of the East Coast Greenway, but I'd say the Farmington Canal Heritage Trail designation comes closest to covering the entire length of the railroad right of way. I'm unsure to what extent the New Haven and Northampton Canal Greenway is used by sources, but assuming they do use it that would be a good title as well. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 00:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here is some documentation published on the official Farmington Canal Heritage Trail website https://fchtrail.org/faq-items/farmington-valley-trails-council-newsletter-april-2021/ by the Farmington Valley Trails Council in April 2021, that the seven nonprofit, volunteer-based organizations that support the trail formed to select a unified name, the New Haven & Northampton Canal Greenway" (NHNCG).
They agree that "The trail has different names depending on its location. In Connecticut, the trail is called the Farmington Canal Heritage Trail. In Massachusetts, the trail has these names: the New Haven and Northampton Canal Greenway, the Manhan Rail Trail, the Southampton Greenway, the Columbia Greenway Rail Trail and the Southwick Rail Trail."
page 3: https://fchtrail.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/2021a-FVTC-Newsletter-3-29-21_final.pdf Rocketwidget (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A Connecticut Department of Transportation press release states: "This project will connect the existing five-mile gap on the historical Farmington Canal Heritage Trail, an 81-mile multi-use rail trail located in Connecticut and Massachusetts...". The article can explain the Massachusetts preferred nomenclature, while treating it as a single entity, which I think would be consistent with the pre-existing usage. Of course we would have the redirects from the various names that Massachusetts prefers. Fabrickator (talk) 19:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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