Talk:Eugene, Oregon/Archive 1

Population

since when is Eugene the 3rd largest city??? I think it's:

1. Portland
2. Eugene
3. Salem
4. Medford

Dmsar 00:33 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Since sometime very recently. :) While such things are always a little bit fuzzy, the US census now shows Salem as having edged out Eugene for second place. This hit the local press sometime in early July of 2003. -Anon.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.180.160.1 (talk • contribs) 22:20, August 20, 2003

2002 census? I thought about replacing the population value with data from Portland State University Population Research Center that shows Eugene as the 2nd largest city in Oregon according to their July 1, 2003 estimates. http://www.upa.pdx.edu/CPRC/programs/estimates/index.html

I was not sure whether to use these values or the official 2000 census, so I refered to other cities (Salem, Oregon, Astoria, Oregon, Medford, Oregon,New York City, Washington, D.C., Seattle, Washington) and reverted back to official United States Census numbers. 8-23-04 by Cacophony

The above statement is true, Salem is larger than Eugene. However the actual number that Salem has surpassed Eugene by is only 100+ people according to KEZI news reports. This is not a huge margin obviously. Also, if you factor the surrounding areas (for Eugene you could include Springfield and Glenwood and for Salem you could include Keizer and possibly Turner), i believe Eugene/Metro is larger. -Steve—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.224.127.146 (talk • contribs) 18:00, September 27, 2005

Another great way of indicating the population growth of a city....count how many Wal-Marts are in the area. Eugene metro area has three (3) Wal-Marts with a population of approx 200,000 (metro population). Compare that to Sacramento, California which also has three (3) Wal-Marts but a metro population of 1,796,857. Why build 3 stores in Eugene, Oregon with 200,000+ people if Sacramento only needs three with a population of 1.7+ million people? Eugene must be ready to grow. -Steve again!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.224.127.146 (talk • contribs) 18:17, September 27, 2005

Since 2000 or so, when Salem's population surpassed Eugene's. Jgw 23:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

How on Earth is Eugene the "largest metropolitan population in oregon" when the county's population is only 300 something thousand?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.50.195.57 (talk • contribs) 04:07, January 3, 2006

2000 Census Portland 529,121 Eugene 137,893 Salem 136,924

2005 Estimates (by Portland State University's Population Research Center) Portland 555,650 Salem 147,215 Eugene 146,160

(Nearby metro areas include Springfield, bordering Eugene, pop. 55,860; and Keizer, bordering Salem, pop. 34,735)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.103.48.220 (talk • contribs) 20:51, March 12, 2006

80,000 people in the next 10 years??

Can someone cite a source for the amazing assertion in the first paragraph that Eugene's population is expected to grow by 80,000 or so in the next decade?? That is truly astounding for a city in the Pacific Northwest. If it's true, I'm buying real estate there. I have a hunch it's a bit off though - maybe that's the expected metro area figure, not the city figure? Moncrief 05:22, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

The 80,000 people mark in the next 10 years could very well be true. I currently live in Eugene and many of us residents have noticed houses being build by the masses as if they were Legos or Lincoln Logs. Wether inside the City limits or just outside, there are definatly lots of people moving in from other locations to get away from natural disasters, bad traffic, high cost of living, and such. -Steve—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.224.127.146 (talk • contribs) 18:00, September 27, 2005

What Steve said. This area is growing like mad. The whole Willamette Valley region is being filled with new housing, housing costs are skyrocketing. 80k in the next decade easily sounds right. Jgw 23:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

It is not the size of the town that counts, but the quality of the people. Would you want to move from either Eugene or Salem to say, Los Angeles that has more people than Portland, Salem and Eugene combined. I think the 80,000 figure is modest. They can not build houses fast enough in Eugene.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.222.78 (talk • contribs) 23:34, December 11, 2005

In either case, without reference the 80,000 growth assertion probably isn't supportable.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jquazimodor (talk • contribs) 21:20, January 14, 2006

Politics

This section, as currently written, seems not to fit NPOV and could use some work.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jquazimodor (talk • contribs) 21:14, January 14, 2006

Agreed. I have changed this explanatory paragraph...

"Recently, the liberal wing of local politics has been gaining strength, mostly on a reform platform calling for greater transparency and accountability in local government. The recent election of Kitty Piercy was widely considered to be a turning point, as previous mayoral administrations often did not reflect Eugene's progressive culture."

to this:

Recently, Eugene's liberals have been strengthened by successful campaigns which have focused on greater transparency and accountability in local government. However, Eugene's conservatives have retained control of half of the city council seats, and, as such, are by no means a weak minority. Over the years, liberals have contended that Eugene's mayors have failed to acknowledge and work with the city's progressive community. Logically, conservatives have consistently responded with the argument that, while they are less vocal, there are just as many conservative residents in Eugene as there are liberals. Currently, many residents believe that Kitty Piercy's election has marked a turning point in local politics, but Eugene's liberals will have to be successful in the next wave of elections if they wish to make a lasting impression on city politics.

The last sentence is probably still POV, but this revision is a step in the right direction.

--Mingus ah um 06 April 2006

This is a lot better. I'd agree that the last sentence is still POV.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jquazimodor (talk • contribs) 15:27, June 17, 2006

Infrastructure?

Is someone going to put SOMETHING under the Infrastructure section? -Eltinwë 22:20, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Good Article

Great article! Add some ref's so I can make it a GA. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 02:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Eugene is 2nd largest city in Oregon

We should stick with the "OFFICIAL" Census numbers and not the 2005 "ESTIMATE." Eugene is the 2nd largest city in Oregon.

Elijah Mohammad 08:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Please note too the Santa Clara residents will not be included in official population figures, while most definitely living within Eugene -- unlike Springfield, which is a separate and distinct city. LauraA 04:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Sister city

Can someone point to a source that shows Boulder is indeed a sister city of Eugene since folks keep insisting on putting it back in? If it's a joke, well, I've heard the same thing about Santa Cruz, Ann Arbor, Bellingham, etc... Katr67 19:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it. Katr67 13:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Kesey

- Though Kesey grew up in Springfield and lived in Pleasant Hill, Eugene claims him as its own--witness the Kesey statue downtown. He did get his degree from and teach at the UO. I'm going to remove the "(actually Springfield)" from his name. Katr67 13:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)