Talk:Eric Daman

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Media appearances and Further reading sections[edit]

The problem with the Media appearances section is that it reads, "Daman has appeared on ..." How do we know this? The Wikipedia editor saw his appearance on these medias and reported within Wikipedia. Wikipeida editors should not be reporters. They merely need to use what happened in the media appearances to expand the biography article. The further reading section also has the same problem. How do we know that "Reports of Daman's work as costume designer for Gossip Girl can be found in ..." Because a Wikipedia editor saw these and reported to Wikipedia. Wikipeida editors should not be reporters. Instead, the material within each of the further reading references should be summarized within the Wikipedia biography article. The information in both the media appearances and further reading sections should be incorporated into the prose part of the article and the sections deleted. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:34, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the "Further Reading" section. I'm posting it below, so it's not lost (though it's always available in prior versions of the article). While it may contain good sources for expanding the article, it looks like some/many/most of the links are already used as footnotes. And it's unclear that any of the sources not already used have material that's appropriate to expand this article - as opposed to the Gossip Girl article, in which a detailed discussion of costumes would be appropriate. (See WP:UNDUE for a discussion of avoiding over-emphasis of a particular aspect of a subject.)
I note that the "Further Reading" section, per WP:GTL, is supposed to be for offline sources that are not in the article but would be useful to an interested reader (as an expansion of the article), similar to how the "External links" section is for online sources.
I also note that per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Thus it is not appropriate to provide links, this Wikipedia article, to every article that mentions Daman's work for Gossip Girl. Links are supposed to support text, not stand by themselves. Someone who wants to find every mention of Daman and Gossip Girl is welcome to do a Google search (or a Google News search). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:07, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Further reading [incorrect section heading, per above]
Reports of Daman's work as costume designer for Gossip Girl can be found in The New York Times,[1] and in InStyle,[2] People,[3]Entertainment Weekly,[4]Vanity Fair,[5]The Los Angeles Times,[6]The Wall Street Journal,[7] The New York Post,[8]) Us Weekly,[9] USA Today,[10] Nylon,[11] Teen Vogue,[12] Allure,[13] Italian Vogue,[14] and other publications and websites.
As noted here, Brianleeboyce was working to address the concerns noted within the further reading section and the other concerns noted within the article (via the templates). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 08:07, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
An example of why it's definitely better to discuss changes to articles on article talk pages, not editor talk pages. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ La Ferla, Ruth (July 8, 2008). = 2 "Forget Gossip, Girl; the Buzz Is About the Clothes". The New York Times. Retrieved 12 July 2012. {{cite news}}: Check |url= value (help)
  2. ^ Petreyik, Caitlin. "Gossip Girl: Does Serena's Dress Look Familiar". What's Right Now!. Time, Inc. Retrieved 12 July 2012.
  3. ^ Triggs, Charlotte. "Behind The Seams at Gossip Girl". Gossip Girl Star Closets. Time, Inc. Retrieved 12 July 2012.
  4. ^ Stransky, Tanner. "TV's Most (and Least) Stylish Characters of '08". Entertainment Weekly. Entertainment Weekly Inc. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  5. ^ Berri, Nicole. "Welcome Back, Gossip Girl". Vanity Fair Daily. Condé Nast Digital. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  6. ^ King, Susan (January 14, 2009). "Costume Designers Guild nominations". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  7. ^ Ramirez, Elva. "From Runway to Small Screen: Teen Drama 'Gossip Girl' creates a faux Fashion Week event". Life&Culture. Dow Jones & Company. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  8. ^ Lieberman, Sara (December 20, 2009). "The Guy Behind 'Gossip Girl'". New York Post. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  9. ^ Charnin, Sasha. "Get Gossip Girl Glam for Less!". Recessioni$ta Blog. Us Weekly. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  10. ^ Carter, Kelly. "Trendy CW teens hit both coasts on 'Gossip' and '90210'". usatoday.com/life/televison/news. Gannett Co., Inc. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  11. ^ Krentcil, Faran. = article&parid = 5262 "Spotted: Gossip Girl fashions hitting the mall". Fashion: People Are Talking. 2012 Nylon Holding Group. Retrieved 13 July 2012. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  12. ^ Cohn, Alison. "exclusive q&a with gossip girl costume designer eric daman". Fashion News. Condé Nast. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  13. ^ Scroop, Catherine. "Inside the Gossip Girl Wardrobe Closet". Daily Beauty Reporter. Condé Nast. Retrieved 13 July 2012.
  14. ^ Arden Houser, Kristopher. "Gossip Girl: Interview with Eric Daman". Obsession of the Day, News People are Talking About. Edizioni Conde Nast. Retrieved 13 July 2012.

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