Talk:Driving Van Trailer

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Er, looking at the Mark 3 DVT list, where is the EWS executive one? It definately a Mark 3 DVT... User:Tom walker 20:35 GMT August 30 2006

101 Sqadron[edit]

Surely this DVT has been de-named as a pendolino now carries the same name?

Split[edit]

I've proposed this be split to make a clear distinction between the two variants and would welcome any comments on this. The arrangement I am suggesting would include a page at this title describing the aspects common to both with links to the two types. Adambro (talk) 20:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems an entirely logical suggestion to me as the various types of Mk3 & Mk4 coaches have their own pages, it's just weather you want to put the effort in Oxyman42 (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Split and Remove vehicle numbers The article refers to DVT (Driving Van Trailer), as in the code used to describe the rail vehicle. There are no seperate sections for BSO, or FK vehicles of any variant. Also, the inclusion of the individual vehicle details reads like a Rail Enthusiasts number book, and is not relevent in an encyclopedia. Removing that would go to make the page much more readable.--81.159.10.178 (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I can see why you suggest it, but I would suggest individual info on each type should be in the Mk3 and Mk4 pages and this article be more about what a DVT actually is Talltim (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the confusion, I've now withdrawn my proposal. Adambro (talk) 17:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cabbage or NPCU[edit]

In American railway parlance, I believe this kind of vehicle would be called either a Non-Powered Cab (or Control) Unit (NPCU) or a "Cabbage" (Cab+Baggage) if also used for carrying checked baggage. Should the article reflect this, or is an NPCU something different? 69.42.7.212 (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a specific car build, The British Rail Driving Van Trailer, technically while similar they shouldn't really be on the same page, (except under related articles) A page for Cab cars or control cars would be what your looking for. (Note I'm NOT an Administrator, so I may be wrong)--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 02:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

82306 & 82308[edit]

Both 82306 & 82308 are shown as Renumbered from 82144. Has anybody got a reliable reference to resolve this ambiguity? Railwayfan2005 (talk) 21:46, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Livery?[edit]

The article says that "the collapse of the NXEC franchise (...) means that the current mix of liveries will probably remain until a new private franchisee is found in 2013" yet the following table lists all DVT to be EC-silver (with two of them wrapped in vinyls).--93.129.119.130 (talk) 11:33, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for the fleet list?[edit]

I noticed the fleet list has little to no citations on it. It really could do with some sources added for clarification about the current status of the DVTsSlender (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Still missing 5 years later. Cjjb (talk) 19:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Couple of hours later... all updated as best as I can find references. Just need the Mk 3s now... Danners430 (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eurostar?[edit]

Historically, it was believed that a train would be unstable at high speeds unless pulled from the front but extensive testing, and the experience of high speed trains with central power cars such as the British Rail APT and the Eurostar, have altered this view.

APT-P did have the central powercars but APT-E did not and Eurostar 373 has powercars and an additional powered bogie at the frond and the end, but not in the middle. Also the Mark4 DVT was build later than the APT-P.--92.200.68.96 (talk) 15:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the UK, the first long trains to have the traction unit pushing from the rear were the electric express trains built for the Bournemouth line electrification in 1966-67. These were rated for 90 mph, and normally consisted of a Class 430 (4-REP) unit hauling two Class 491 (4-TC) units from Bournemouth to Waterloo, and pushing them back again (at Bournemouth the leading 4-TC unit would be hauled on to Weymouth, and then pushed back to Bournemouth, by a Class 33/1 locomotive). The portion pushed by the 4-REP at up to 90 mph thus comprised eight coaches. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:06, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TPE Mk5 Driving Trailer?[edit]

Is there really any reason for the TPE Mk5 Driving Trailer to be on this page? It's not a 'van' as such, so its inclusion seems rather out of place. Would this be better in the 'see also' section? Thanks for your thoughts. Superalbs (talk) 19:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have removed it - the TPE Article now redirects to "Control car" which is the international description of Push Pull Driving trailers. --Enotayokel (talk) 16:01, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]