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Stub[edit]

The sole reason I created this stub is to prevent reemergence of a shapeless speculative text similar to the deleted one. This is a marketroid-style term which has both deep meaning and none of it. I laid out a tight pattern of referenced text, the style which will be much easier to enforce by the way of example, rather than to struggle with some other well-meaning, but too excited prolific writers.

In fact, there may be as many sub-articles as the areas where DT happening; say, one page per book cited in my stub. Lorem Ip (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture Caption[edit]

"Some elements have been transformed for being useful" - I guess I understand what that's saying but it's pretty meaningless alone. My attention was drawn to this because my internet connection was so poor that the picture didn't load... Apologies if there's somewhere else I should be writing this, my understanding is that picture captions are article-specific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dichohecho (talk • contribs) 14:15, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kahn Source[edit]

It seems that one of the main sources for this article is Shahyan Khan master thesis 'Leadership in the Digital Age - a study on the effects of digitalization on top management leadership.'. As far as I can see, the thesis has not yet rendered a paper that has been peer reviewed or published in any scientific journals or conference papers. Please take note of the Wikipedia page on identifying reliable sources, especially the subsection about Scholarship. Judging by how this article is just a bit younger than Kahns paper, I venture to guess that much of it is written by avid readers of his paper, if not by the author himself. While I do find the contents interesting and the sources that Kahn uses seem solid (Bonfour, Vogelsang, Westerman), I'd simply recommend rewriting the article to build directly upon those sources, instead of referencing Kahn. At least until he continues his scientific career and starts publishing in peer reviewed journals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.153.6.52 (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I am starting work on this. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RfC about "According to Khan, 2016"[edit]

This RfC was closed because consensus was reached to remove the Khan reference. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:32, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

In the edit by IP user 213.89.130.73 on 5 February at 23:22 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_transformation&type=revision&diff=763911992&oldid=762943206) the editor added "According to Khan, 2016" to the start of the paragraph. My view is that the article is about the subject of digital transformation, and is not to promote Shahyan Khan's thesis. The article is more encyclopedic without the additional reference to his work. (There are plenty references to his paper throughout the article) Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

I agree. CapitalSasha ~ talk 17:27, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The statement is cited to a work by Leibniz. There's no reason to mention Khan. Maproom (talk) 08:04, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Historic development[edit]

This seems very academic and too far reaching. Should the origins of digital transformation go back beyond the development of the commercial internet, agile, etc? Ambitus (talk) 10:35, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Other defintions of digital transformation[edit]

Reading sources like http://web.archive.org/web/20190922193949/https://www.i-scoop.eu/digital-transformation/ and recent review papers (Vial 2019: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsis.2019.01.003, and Pihir et al. 2019: https://doi.org/10.31341/jios.43.1.3) I have the emphasis on cloud computing in the initial definitoin is misleading. The Information Science literature seems to include every kind of digital technology (e.g. Vial 2019: “DT is a process that aims to improve an entity by triggering significant changes to its properties through combinations of information, computing, communication, and connectivity technologies") and focuses on the significant changes it brings to organisations. Westerman (as cited in Pihir et al 2019), for instance, distinguishes "Substitution (digital technologies are used to replace a function/process that is already performed in the organization), Extension (digital technologies are used to improve the functionality of a process/product) and Transformation (digital technologies are used to fundamentally redefine a process/product)." (Pihir 2019, 34). Maybe somebody with a deeper insight into information science/digital transformation literature can support this and change the article accordingly? --GVogeler (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DX and/or DT[edit]

One or more editors have taken offence to the reference to DX as an abbreviation for digital transformation. While many use the abbreviation DT, it is also known as DX. While an editor might prefer DT and grimace when people call it DX, both abbreviations are in widespread use. A few reliable sources:

Please discuss here if you still take issue with this, rather than reverting. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:43, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above link to IBM is an IDC paper, nothing from IBM. IBM in particular, like others, use DX for Digital Experience. Please remove the IBM link.

Counter arguments:

It seems as if IDC tried to coin the term "DX". The first appearances in the Wikipedia article were link spams to IDC resources. Meanwhile, some people and organizations indeed started to adopt "DX".

The argument of "DT" proponents is - "X" in abbreviations is typically used for terms that sound do sound like an X (FX - Effects, UX/CX/DX - User/Customer/Digital Experience, TX - Transaction, *X - * Expo). Sounder030 (talk) 10:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is correct that some say DT and some say DX. The article doesn't have to state which abbreviation is preferred, or correct, or more widely used, or explain who first used one or the other, does it? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Cisco page is also referencing content by IDC. The abbreviation sounds artificial, and I wouldn't be willing to call these sources "reliable". 124.214.42.86 (talk) 14:12, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguate digitalization[edit]

Finding that "digitalization" redirects to "digitization" and then to "digital transformation". Notably, digitalization goes beyond the conversion of data in digitization, and digitalization represents concepts similar to digital transformation. However, the apparent interchangeable use of digitalization and digitalization appears inadequate as the two terms are not exactly the same. I'd argue that digitalization is an intermediate outcome of using digitized data and digital technologies to inject efficiency into existing activities of a sector as well as create new kinds of value in the sector. Digital transformation, on the other hand, is a more long term outcome of digitalization and widespread uptake of the innovations that digitalize industries. Does this make sense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruthHunterLe (talk • contribs) 08:47, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Add new info (other studies)[edit]

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•Information to be added (section “Other studies”): In 2019 Amrop published a report that studied what factors are getting in the way of digital transformation and what can help organisations to move forward. The study introduced Digital Competency model for CDOs and equivalents and found 13 areas in which under 40% of digital leaders feel fully competent. •Explanation of issue: Information about a report on the topic of digital transformation •References supporting change: https://amrop.nl/sites/default/files/featured_file_attachment/191010%20Amrop%20DoB%20Edition%203%20FULL%20REPORT.pdf

Monstera071 (talk) 07:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Monstera071. What is your conflict of interest? You need to disclose whether you are being paid for your edits and if applicable, who is paying you, who the client is, and any other relevant role or relationship. Until then, this edit request cannot be processed. Best, Altamel (talk) 03:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

+ Organisational transformation[edit]

Tomgeraghty (talk) 11:52, 20 September 2021 (UTC) I feel this article is focussing too much on the "digital products" aspect, rather than organisational. Could I propose the below? (Sorry @Lord_Belbury - I wasn't aware of the inline link rule :) )[reply]

Digital transformation efforts cannot be restricted to simply implementing technology or introducing automation, however: the transformation programme must take into account Technology, People, and Process if it is to stand any chance of success. Technology, People, and Processes are all interdependent and for a complex sociotechnical system. There are many factors involved in digital transformation], and which factors to focus on or prioritise will depend on the organisation itself, and what the goals of the transformation programme are. As the Cynefin model shows, the approach in a complex system (such as an organisation) is probe-sense-respond, which provides a mechanism for learning and planning along the way. This is also known as Discovery-Driven Transformation.

In this discussion the costs are usually ignored. Digital offers more opportunity for crooks, fraud, and falsification. The many measures, including whole new government departments or hiring high powered contractors, are costing a lot plus the necessity for remodeling everything every two years also costs more time and money than people, especially consumers, save. In addition, the young generation all want to work with computers and house building reduces to the point of having many homeless in the streets. It is time that the flipside and the costs are brought into the open. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:C4D2:77D:4A2B:3C1F (talk) 06:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

Hello. I hereby propose to merge Digital transformation into Digital Revolution. Since the transformation article describes the implementation process that leads to the revolution, I believe that it will benefit from the context of being placed within the Digital Revolution article. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 21:28, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose While they are clearly related, I think we have two distinct topics which would benefit from separate articles. Digital revolution is already a long article and doesn't need to be any bigger. This article could be much long. At the moment, it's a fairly poor stub, but I think the solution to that is to make this article better, not to merge it into something else. Bondegezou (talk) 10:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The term 'digital transformation' is relatively new, coming into use from about 2014 (see Google Trends) and in my mind describes the activity of transforming an organisation to take advantage of internet-era technology, which is not what the target article is about. I agree with Bondegezou - this has been a problematic article, but we should improve the stub rather than merge it. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal withdrawn Thank you both for sharing your thoughts on the issue, it is very helpful. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:08, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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