Talk:Digital radio in Australia

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Omission[edit]

Perth gets Coles Radio. Needs to be added to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.167.206 (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Table format?[edit]

With this edit, ZanderSchubert (talk · contribs) undid this edit that I made recently. There was no reason given for the reversion. Even though it is longer, the table format that I implemented has advantages: it is easier to find information, and it is sortable (something that allows functionality that the previous table can't). Does anyone else have an opinion on the two table formats? If no (reasoned) opinion/consensus is forthcoming, I will re-establish my table format for the reasons given above. Thanks.  HWV258  22:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have explained my revert. I essentially reverted it because the changes to the station names was half-hearted: Melbourne station Sport 927 became "Sport", the stations with branding like 97.3FM were changed to their (rarely used) callsigns, and using "ABC" rather than, say, "ABC Local Radio" or "702 ABC Sydney" would make some stations harder to find, rather than easier. I've been playing with the format of the tables, and my attempt at a sortable table is here (Format Three). I've also added in some extra info, such as the station owners. If you like the formatting, feel free add the table to the article. ZanderSchubert (talk) 10:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've made some major changes here, the FM/AM based listings were far from appropriate in my view for a Digital Radio station, also this format incorporates the extra digital channels in a much more user-friendly way. Removed references to call signs, except for stations that actually identify themselves as such. Find me someone who calls Vega 2PTV or Mix as 2UUZ and I'll add them back in. Sometimes Wikipedia takes the accuracy over callsigns way too far and this doesn't help someone who just comes here to find out what stations are on digital. The pathetic state of our TV article names is a case in point. That said radio is a bit better (The ABC Local Radio articles are perfect in this regard).
Anyway, hope I've made an improvement here, I certainly think it is better (might need to be tidied a bit though) GoForMoe (talk) 14:56, 20 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Zoo Super Digi[edit]

For the time being I have removed Zoo Super Digi from the Sydney listings, for two reasons:
1: At current it is only testing
2: There is no reference to it on the Digital Radio Plus website
Therefore, as far as I'm considering, it does NOT exist. Once Digital Radio Plus lists it, then I will add it. Wally Otto (talk) 11:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, though the DR+ website is frequently out of date, so I think when the 2SM site starts promoting it as they do with Gorilla or when http://zoosuperdigi.com/ is a proper site it should be added in. GoForMoe (talk) 06:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree there. Same thing should apply to 3MTR when it comes in. Wally Otto (talk) 01:20, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed Barry, under the same clause. As it hasn't started properly broadcasting, there is no need to have it. Wally Otto (talk) 03:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Four Austereo Digital stations & Bitrates.[edit]

Has ACMA given Austereo another station "licence" for digital? It just seems a bit odd there is 4 stations instead of 3. Or is it just that the bitrate has dropped? On that topic, would it be useful to have bitrate's added as another column to the table? Wally Otto (talk) 03:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Austereo bought additional spectrum in all cities in the auction of the excess. I don't think the bitrates is something important enough for the article, perhaps a discussion of bitrates on Australian digital radio in text, but the exact detail for all stations is possibly too far.
As well as Austereo in all cities, DMG bought some in Brisbane, allowing for adding Koffee and doing Nova at 128kbps. ARN bought it in all places except Adelaide (where Austereo got all of it) and Perth (obviously). CRN/Grant bought half of Perth's. 2SM bought a small chunk in Sydney but aren't using it for some reason, Sport 927 bought some in Melbourne, but don't use it. (they only use 64kbps) (DTVForums has fairly updated bitrate listings here)
To answer your exact question, in Melbourne: Barry 48kbps, Caravan 64kbps, Fox 64kbps, I see red 48kbps, Radar 64kbps, Triple M 64kbps. --GoForMoe (talk) 10:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I wasn't paying attention and only checked tonight on that answer. Sorry for that.. 2SM's I think you'll find is Zoo, but I'm not that confident. For all we could know, there could be something in the pipeline.
I don't suppose you'd know how much every broadcaster was issued with? (Helps with writing up a section) Wally Otto (talk) 11:01, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
2SM oddly are doing it as 32kbps for 2SM, 48 each for Gorilla and Zoo. 6iX in Perth are doing the same, 48kbps for 6iX and My Perth Digital and 32kbps for Hot Country. This is despite both companies purchasing additional spectrum. Technically Austereo and ARN are breaking the law, they are supposedly only supposed to own 256kbps in total (the digital version of the 2 station rule), but that seems to be ignored.
Each commercial licence (FM and AM) got 128kbps (the only source I know of is the legislation on that one), so as in most cases each broadcaster has two stations in each market, they just bundle it all in as 256kbps. I can't give specifics on the auction, beyond knowing who bought spectrum, they don't mention who bought each chunk, so there isn't a way of telling the actual resulting amounts beyond monitoring usage.
As mentioned in the article currently, 2/9ths or 256kbps per multiplex is reserved for community stations. That means less than 40kbps each in Perth, around 50 in Sydney and above 70 in Brisbane. ABC have 2/3rds of the SBS/ABC multiplex. --GoForMoe (talk) 13:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regional trials.[edit]

Was digging through the ACMA list of broadcasting transmitters & found the following: (Dates are "licensing dates")

  • Canberra: 10B (211.648 MHz) - 1 July 2010 to 30 June 2011
  • Darwin: 10B (211.648 MHz) - 23 July 2010 to 22 July 2011

Does this suggest that Darwin is further progressed? Wally Otto (talk) 11:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Community stations[edit]

We should really find some legitimate reference for community stations on DAB: otherwise, adding them amounts to little more than hearsay. ZanderSchubert (talk) 08:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree there Zander. It would make sense to have every station referenced. (For example, Inspire Digital).
In addition to this, can we NOT add the coming soon stations? It's a bit pointless for a current list, and fits with WP:CRYSTALBALL. Wally Otto (talk) 10:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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AAC+[edit]

The opening section of this page notes that Australia uses AAC+, suggesting AAC+ is used exclusively. However, not all stations use AAC+. In Sydney, 2SM uses standard AAC (AAC-LC) at 64kbps. 2GB also uses standard AAC, but at 128kbps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SydRadio (talk • contribs) 11:38, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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