Talk:Desloge family

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The article is the condensed version of thoroughly vetted 900 page research monograph supported by materials at valid historical societies, containing over 230 bibliographic sources, is under ISBN, with copyright and Library of Congress application. Additional sources are included.

If the above is correct, then this article is a massive copyright violation under WP:COPYVIO. Plazak (talk) 20:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not a copyright violation as the author of the article is the holder of any governing copyright for the Desloge Family in America monograph and has freely released the article

Wikidesloge (talk) 18:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citations in terrible shape[edit]

In this article, there is perhaps not a single citation to a published source that is complete to Wikipedia standards. First, they all appear to lack page numbers. A citation to a 900 page work, lacking a specifiic page number, is simply not a verifiable citation. Many others lack information on dates and publishers. The citation "State of New Hampshire, Town of Ringe" (that's the complete citation!) is far from being a verifiable ref. Someone is obviously putting a lot of work into this article, but please take care to list complete and verifiable citations. Plazak (talk) 19:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it is true that "they all appear to lack page numbers", how does the fact that the bibliography of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Maison_de_Guibourd is not complete to Wikipedia standards? Wikidesloge (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:31, 17 January 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Proposed move to Desloge family[edit]

Other family articles on WP are listed as "Surname family"; I propose this article is moved to "Desloge family" from its current title. poroubalous (talk) 18:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This Article is desiganted "in America" to delineate this family from the vast Desloge Family in France and Canada (and to a lesser degree England. Wikidesloge (talk)

moved from article pending acceptable citations[edit]

This needs actual citations, not just "Jay Gitlin said this at some point":

Desloge is author of reference, historical & genealogy of the History of the Desloge Family in America. His history of the French on the new American frontier has been coined by Yale University Director of French American Studies Jay Gitlin as "one of the most serious and major contributions on the subject…a foundation of work for thousands of academics and historians."[1][2] [3][4]

Similarly, none of the references in the following text quite back up its statements:

Christopher Desloge (author, historian - see below) founded the Foundation for Commercial Philanthropy and Grace Havens[5] to fund projects to serve the poor. Desloge has founded a variety of non-profit organizations including the St. Louis Non Profit Organization President's Council, the Foundation for Commercial Philanthropy, .[6] and Grace Havens, .[7] the Desloge Foundation. Desloge also has served the Society of St. Vincent de Paul National Council as national disaster and grant coordinator for Hurricane Katrina.[8]. Mr. Desloge also served as the Chairman of Disaster Operations for the American Red Cross St. Louis Bi-State Chapter, and has served of the boards of directors of St. Louis Psychoanalytic Institute, Center for Head Injury Services,[9] and served as a founding board member of the International Hildreth Meiere Association.[10]

I've moved these sentences from the article pending more specific citations. PRRfan (talk) 02:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Jay Gitlin, author, historian, Director of French American Studies, Yale University
  2. ^ Jay Gitlin, The Bourgeois Frontier: French Towns, French Traders & American Expansion
  3. ^ The History of the Desloge Family in America, by Christopher Desloge, lulu.com, 2013
  4. ^ The Desloge Letters and various genealogies. Compilation of approximately 600 English, some translated (from French) letters dating between 1817 and 1880; translations by various sources including Zoe Desloge Cobb and Josephine C. Cobb. Numerous copies among numerous Desloge Family descendants, including Christopher D. Desloge; Fusz Family; Huger Family; Thompson Family; and Desloge Missouri Library, Missouri Historical Society Archives, Joseph Desloge Collection and Firmin Desloge Collection
  5. ^ State of Missouri Secretary of State Articles or Incorporation
  6. ^ the Secretary of State of Missouri, corporations division, https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?3393850
  7. ^ the Secretary of State of Missouri, corporations division, https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Corp.asp?3411052
  8. ^ Society of St. Vincent de Paul National Council of the United States, Executive Director Roger Playwin www.svdpusa.org
  9. ^ Annual Reports, Secretary of State of Missouri, corporations division https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Filings.asp?677108#
  10. ^ Annual reports, Secretary of State of Connecticut, corporations division (non profits)

This is starting to resemble a Facebook page[edit]

The section on the family in the 2000s is descending into non-notable trivia. This sort of thing is best handled on a Facebook page rather than a Wikipedia article. Plazak (talk) 21:40, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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