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James Tappy Wright

http://www.rockroadie.net/?target=rockstar_services Opon reveiwing all of these interveiws with James Tappy Wright, I find him to be the most appaling individual on EARTH.I believe he is a genuine LIAR and should hold no valuable credit to Wikipedia whatsoever.Mark Pagliaro 02:04, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

CHRISTIANS IN ROME by Michael Fairchild

Go here and read this http://www.rockprophecy.com/hendrixdeath.html In an interview for KPFA radio, broadcast on Jimi's birthday in 1982, Eric Burdon discussed the morning that Jimi died and said, "The only thing I remember specifically and clearly is [Monika's] car was parked outside and it was a cold morning and the fog was in the back window of the car, and [Jimi] had written in the window on the car, on his way down to the apartment the night before, he'd written 'LOVE' on the back window of the car. And I remember standing outside looking at the window of the car, you know, and I knew it was his handwriting."



In light of new evidence indicating that Jimi died before 5:30 a.m that morning, the above comments are of interest because we must wonder just how early it was when Burdon arrived at Monika Dannemann's flat and noticed "fog" on the car windows. On the day that Jimi died (Sept. 18, 1970), the temperature in London reached 74 degrees. One would expect that night "fog" would be burned away by the morning sun well before 9 a.m. If Burdon saw fog, he must have been at Jimi's death scene earlier. It will be of interest to obtain hourly temperature readings of London weather for that morning and determine precisely how early it was that Burdon arrived there. [Prior to Burdon's statement about the window fog everyone had been led to believe by Monika that she didn't realize Jimi was in trouble until past 11 a.m. that morning. Keep this in mind while reading what follows.]


In addition to Burdon's statement, we should also re-examine an interview that Amsterdam radio conducted with Monika on Sept. 19, 1975. "We stayed home till about 12 o'clock," Monika said of that last night with Jimi, "and then I drove him to a flat of some friends of his, and he stayed there for about half an hour, and then I picked him up again. We talked till about 7 o'clock in the morning, and then I started to sleep, and I woke up about 9 o'clock and Jimi was still asleep and I just couldn't sleep, but after a while I realized that he got sick. Well, at first I tried to wake him up and I just couldn't, he didn't wake up, so I called the ambulance, which came after 10 minutes, and they checked him and I asked them if he would be alright again and they said yes, sure, there's nothing special about it, he'll be OK again. While we were driving in the ambulance they seated Jimi on a chair, but with his head backwards, which I found out only later that this was the worst position they could have put him in because he couldn't breath properly, because he had been sick. We got to the hospital and immediately got Jimi in a special room. At first they said to me he will be alright. I went to the doctors to ask what happened and they said he'd be alright, and then about a half an hour later they told me he was dead...I do believe that he got poisoned."



Contradicting Monika, both of the ambulance attendants who arrived on the scene that morning said that the flat was empty except for Jimi's dead body. Neither of these men have any recollection of ever having laid eyes on Monika. This is supported by the fact that they had to call the police. When a body is found in an empty flat, it is standard procedure for London Ambulance Service attendants to immediately call the police before anything at the scene is moved. The attendants were unable to identify the body, there was no one there to even say that this was Jimi Hendrix. And both attendants insist that they handled Jimi's body properly, laying him flat inside the ambulance, not upright "seated on a chair," as charged by Monika.


In addition, both of the attendants, as well as Ian Smith (the police officer who was called to the scene) swear that no one else rode along in the ambulance with Jimi's body, as Monika claims she did. What's more, Dr. Seifert, who tended to Jimi's body when it arrived at the hospital, insists that there was "no woman at admissions." Referring to Monika's claim that she was told at the hospital that Jimi was alright, and her claim to have gone in to view Jimi's body after being told of his death, Dr. Seifert insists, "No nurse went out to say we'd revived him...and no one would have been allowed to look at him or stand over him. That would never have been done."


Clearly, lies have been/are being told about the circumstances surrounding the death of Hendrix. In the face of all of these opposing accounts of that morning it is infuriating that the original 1970 inquest was such a botched up investigation. For more than 22 years we were left only with Monika's story of what happened. We have been led to regard the two ambulance attendants as everything from inept fools to criminally negligent conspirators. Having finally been tracked down and interviewed (as they should have been in 1970), the question is obvious: have these men been both libeled and slandered before an international audience for over two decades? What's more, has the general public's view of Jimi as the "drug addict zombie responsible for his own death" been the result of a cover up by "other hands" that were at play that morning? We don't know how Monika's nine sleeping pills got into Jimi's system. But in the absence for so many years of so many crucial testimonies to cross reference, public perception of his death remains outrageously manipulated.



If any one of the people with him early in the morning on Sept. 18, 1970 were more responsible for what happened (accident or foul play) than we've been led to believe, they have, until now, been successful in shifting that responsibility onto Jimi and forever condemned him to a public stigma of "irresponsible drug addict." Has Jimi been so pathetically sacrificed?…If "20th century" authorities refuse to complete their inexcusably botched 1970 inquest properly they can count on us to describe their folly in detail for Jimi's billions of future fans to look back and condemn what has been wrought.


Can any of us even believe that the mainstream media, especially in the United States, has been so conspiratorially ignoring this story? An inept British inquest set the stage for Jimi's media crucifixion and establishment watchdogs everywhere remain blind or asleep. The wall separating Hendrix fact from fiction is as high as the Tower of Babel, and in its shadow we are left to rail at the authorities like early Christian in Rome. We are early Christians in Rome...


Every one of us can spare an hour of our time to write a letter to the Attorney General's Office in London to help persuade them to do the right thing and re-open this inquest. The millions of people who have responded to Jimi, and the billions more who will respond, deserve this. But most of all, Jimi deserves this. write to:



Mr. J.D. Kellock The Legal Secretariat to the Law Officers Attorney General's Chamber 9 Buckingham Gate London SW1E 6JP England


The Etchingham/Mitchell Files


Why Take Five Hours to Call an Ambulance?


Death of Hendrix: How I Sparked the Scotland Yard Probe


THE LAST 24 SECONDS - 2 Hr. Movie - See How Jimi Was Rilly Killed


Doctors and attendants who handled Jimi's body recall him being covered with a large amount of red wine. Yet medical records show his blood alcohol level was 46 mgs when he died, meaning that his system hadn't absorbed a lot of wine, 46 milligrams when converted to ounces equals 0.0016 of an ounce - practically nothing. So a lot of wine got into him and then he quickly died, heart stops, absorption ceases, a small amount of alcohol got into his bloodstream, yet there was lots of wine spilled all over/around him. He drowned. Was it a forced drowning? Did someone hold him and pour the wine in? Why was his hair, clothes, and bedding covered in so much wine? It's too suspicious.Mark Pagliaro 04:21, 12 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdp0007 (talk • contribs)

This should be merged with main article

There is a long article on Jimi Hendrix, which covers his death. There is really no need for a separate article. No matter how famous or "great" he was, Hendrix was just a musician with a short career, and then died. His death was not historically significant, like that of Abraham Lincoln or John F. Kennedy. The world went on as before. If there are questions about the death itself, okay, put that in a section of the main article. This article is far too long and smacks of fan worship or controversy for its own sake. He took drugs. he died. That's the whole story, isn't it?Chagallophile (talk) 22:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there is a reason; the main article already exceeds WP:SIZE, and uses Summary style. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

But is the death of Jimi Hendrix itself so important it is worthy of a separate article? If so, why?Chagallophile (talk) 22:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully you are familiar with WP:N; if not, then perhaps it is best not to add tags to articles that have been vetted in a review process to define Wikipedia's finest work. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
@Chagallophile: I was going to say "yes" it's worthy but, I just noticed Joplin has just a section, I think both deaths are equally notable, maybe Hendrix just has more information. Also, we should have this discussion in one place Mlpearc (open channel) 23:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

"One of the most influential guitarists of the 1960s"

That's like calling Hitler one of the most controversial political figures of the 1940s. There's no shortage of sources rightfully calling Hendrix the most influential guitarist of all time. Why such an understatement? Kaldari (talk) 05:08, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Importance

What exactly is the point of this article? What makes Hendrix's death unusual? It feels like it's implying he was murdered, but only says so in a footnote. Why would Scotland Yard investigate this? Brutannica (talk) 02:04, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Recent theories

Although most of what you find online is crap, you have to wonder, what if they knew then what they do now about his manic depression which is now named bi polar? He took 18 times his prescribed medication, if he was trying to sleep he wouldn’t have needed THAT much. Rockchicksar (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Article Misrepresents Autopsy Data

In the "Post-Mortem" section the article claims Dr Teare stated Jimi's blood alcohol content was 100mg per 100ml...This is not entirely accurate...I personally possess Jimi Hendrix's autopsy sheets and what is really entered is Dr Teare said he was "estimating" a 100mg per 100ml blood alcohol content at the time of ingestion of the pills...The article errs because it is misleading and suggests Jimi actually had a 100mg per 100ml blood alcohol content that was measured at his autopsy...This is factually incorrect and therefore inherently misleading since the autopsy itself makes clear that Teare actually measured a 5mg blood alcohol content at autopsy...The equipment of the day was only capable of measuring 5mg as the lowest reading, so the actual amount could be as little as 1mg...The 5mg recorded at Jimi's autopsy can validly be called a "trace" amount so the 100mg the article suggests is largely misleading...I managed to find the passage from Moskowitz from which the quote was gotten and whoever wrote the article omitted the word "estimated" that Moskowitz did include...I consider this an intentional misquote that drastically alters the meaning of the passage and what it suggests...In the actual autopsy sheet itself Dr Teare made a special notation where he emphasized that he was "estimating" a 100mg per 100ml blood alcohol content at the time of ingestion of the pills but Teare then failed to include what that specific time was in order to establish proper forensic parameters...Meanwhile that same autopsy sheet lists the actual measured blood alcohol content as being 5mg...

This is furthered by the fact the reference for the 100mg amount is Moskowitz...Moskowitz is an obscure unknown source...As an expert on this subject I have never heard of Moskowitz and the source that should have been used was Tony Brown's 'Hendrix: The Final Days' from which I got the information that Dr Teare estimated the 100mg amount...Further investigation is needed to see if Dr Teare violated autopsy law by estimating a critical forensic measurement in his 100mg entry...The footnote also references Glebbeek as a source for this information...Glebbeek is the author of the publication 'Until We Meet Again' (2011) in which he makes the case Jimi wasn't murdered...This shows biased sourcing since 'Until We Meet Again' can be considered tendentious in its coverage of the facts...Again, while the article lists Jimi as consuming the blood alcohol equivalent of 4 pints of beer the real 5mg amount listed in the autopsy was only a swig's worth...Dr Teare also failed to include any time line listing of when this ingestion occurred...

Also included in the article was a reference to 1.8mg of barbiturate being found in Jimi's blood...The source is once again Moskowitz even though Brown mentions that the original autopsy only found a .7mg barbiturate content...May I be clear that the correct referenced history of Jimi's autopsy information is Dr Teare found a 5mg blood alcohol content and .7mg blood barbiturate level at the autopsy...If you accurately follow the autopsy, Teare re-examined his findings and upped both the blood alcohol and barbiturate counts from his original measurements that were recorded in the autopsy...I also think Moskowitz may be in error because my records show Teare upped his finding to 1.2mg from .7mg (as was referenced in Brown)...There was a statement from one of the coroners that .7mg was not a fatal amount so you can see what the problem is with the information in the current article and what it induces people to believe...Glebbeek's 'Until We Meet Again' publication contains the manufacturer's product information for the Vesparax barbiturate....It lists Lethal Dose as "9 to 10 tablets"...The 9 tablets Jimi took equals roughly the .7mg found at autopsy and Jimi had a notorious tolerance...Please reference the Wikipedia article for Barbiturates and you will see 2000mg is required for Lethal Dose in persons with no tolerance...9 Vesparax only contains 1800mg of barbiturate, 450mg of which is slow release Brallobarbitone...That's why the manufacturer lists the 10th pill as being necessary for overdose (in persons with no tolerance)...

It should also be included in the article that the London Coroner's Office uses the standard medical nomenclature "Intoxication" for less than lethal amounts and "Poisoning" for overdose amounts...Jimi's Cause Of Death at his Inquest listed "Barbiturate Intoxication" (as indicated in the article) therefore conflicting with Teare's later 1.2mg estimate... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScrumDrum (talk • contribs) 23:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Who the eff is Philip Harvey?

This Mr. Harvey person is introduced in the section about Hendrix's final hours and mentioned several times thereafter, but the article doesn't say who he is, what was his occupation or relation to Hendrix and his friends. Who is dis guy? If this is supposedly one of Wiki's best articles, shouldn't the author(s) try to make that clearer?--148.75.248.140 (talk) 05:53, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia-type academic source so the vulgarity "eff" is probably inappropriate for entries...Philip Harvey was the son of the famous Baron Harvey of Prestbury...Lord Harvey was a WWII RAF hero and Member Of Parliament...Because of this privilege Philip was a free spirit who spent his time exploring 60's culture in its hey-day...Philip dove in and spent his time interviewing and photographing famous 60's celebrities...Philip owned a townhouse in Mayfair where he would take in wanderers and other children of the 60's in a sort of bohemian safe house...Around 5pm on the afternoon of September 17 1970 Philip was with one of his flower children in his car at Marble Arch traffic circle...The hippy girl Beth Riley alerted Philip that Jimi Hendrix was in the car next to them at a red light...Beth seized the opportunity and invited Jimi and his girlfriend Monika over to Philip's townhouse and Jimi agreed...Philip then followed Jimi in his car...An account of Jimi's visit to Philip's townhouse and the evening party that occurred there is available in Tony Brown's book 'Hendrix The Final Days'...Philip just so happened to be in the right place at the right time on that last evening of Jimi's life...He died in the early 2000's... 2601:6C3:4000:C5C0:A052:4611:DE4C:9F27 (talk) 19:42, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Since there has been a reply I will not delete this thread, but please review WP:NOTFORUM Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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