Talk:De Lacy

England Mid‑importance

	England portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnglandWikipedia:WikiProject EnglandTemplate:WikiProject EnglandEngland-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Ireland Mid‑importance

	Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Peerage and Baronetage

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage (assessed as Low-importance).

Coordinates[edit]

Why are there coordinates on this article which relates to a family? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

I have reverted the article to the state it was in as of 9 December 2010 due concerns that material added by Selkcerf0142 (talk · contribs) was copyrighted. More details can be found here. Nev1 (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect hyperlink[edit]

There is an incorrect link in this article. The second sentence in the article says " The first records are about Hugh de Lacy (1020–1049). " Hugh de Lacy is a hyperlink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_de_Lacy) that goes to the article on Hugh de Lacy who died 25 July 1186, Durrow, Leinster, - NOT the Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049. As far as I can see there isn't an article on Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049, so either this link needs to be removed or a new article on Hugh de Lacy born 1020-died 1049 needs to be written and the link changed to the new article. Ninanta (talk) 23:41, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one. I've just unlinked it. Go ahead and take a crack at making an article on the missing man, if you think there are enough sources covering him. And don't worry about making changes or corrections yourself.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Who was the eldest son of Walter de Lacy: Roger (as said in the entry on Gilbert de Lacy) or Ilbert (as said in the entry on de Lacy)? Richard C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.29.250.246 (talk) 09:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Complete re-write[edit]

Due to the issues above and many other flaws, I have undertaken a complete re-write of the article eliminating duplicate entries, reducing the number of sections and deprecating the dubious claims of the Austrian/Russian family of the same name. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anomaly[edit]

If Ilbert was born 1045, how could his grandson Henry (Ilbert's son's second son) be born 1070? Brownturkey (talk) 09:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good pont. It looks like his supposed year of death (1123) is more likely to be his year of birth. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:14, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search led me to this blog - no citations but on face value more plausible http://elizabethashworth.com/the-de-lacy-family/henry-de-lacy-the-second-son-of-robert-and-brother-of-ilbert-2/ Brownturkey (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This genealogy site has a profile for Henry with dates of c1097-1177 [1] with 1070-1129 for is father Robert [2]. I'm not sure if I'd trust it as a source but that bit of the article seems to be un-sourced anyway. --Trappedinburnley (talk) 17:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1177 also in this book: "The Legacy of the de Lacy, Lacey, Lacy Family, 1066-1994". Lacey, G. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rKAKXWXIa9gC (1994). Publ: G. Lacey. It is self-published so not authoritative but I guess it'll have to do until we find a better citation.Brownturkey (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Good work. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried again to make some sense of this family tree, but I've found so many inconstancies with this a the related articles it is making my head spin. I would be interested in improving things if anybody has the energy for it.--Trappedinburnley (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on De Lacy. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130523145512/http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/midlandseastcoast/TrimCastle/ to http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/midlandseastcoast/TrimCastle/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Charter of Ilbert de Lacy[edit]

Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum 1066-1154, volume 1 cites the following charter: 254. Grant by Hilbert de Laci and Hadrude his wife to the Holy Trinity [1067-1087] of the Mount at Rouen. Of the manor of Tuisuicz and the tithe of Freteval, for the health of his own soul and that of his lord, King William, and his wife and his son Hugh. Witnesses : King William ; Ilbert de Lacy ; Hadrude his wife. [Original at Winchester College. Archaeological Journal, vol. iv, p. 249.] Seal of Hilbert deLacy (facsimile in Arch. Journal, u.s.). Arcussenilis (talk) 16:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]