Talk:David Flitcroft

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As a Chester fan who regularly went to games during David Flitcroft's career I remember him as a midfielder rather than a defender, as he is currently shown. Interested to hear if Bury fans would agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.42.88 (talk) 08:12, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Sportsfan77777 (talk · contribs) 12:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review. I see it has been sitting in the queue for awhile. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • who is now director of football ===>>> who is the director of football (MOS:RELTIME)
  • I'd suggest adding to the first paragraph what was the main level he played (Third Division, right?), as well as the highest level if different (Second Division, I think?).
  • Same thing as above for his managing career.
    • Most of the management spells already have the league mentioned in the paragraph.
  • He is the younger brother of the former Blackburn Rovers and Manchester City player Garry Flitcroft. ===>>> His older brother is the former Blackburn Rovers and Manchester City player Garry Flitcroft. (to avoid framing his whole career relative to his brother)
  • he began his career ===>>> Flitcroft (first mention each paragraph should be his name, and not just "he")
  • first-team <<<=== Should this be hyphenated? Maybe as an adjective, but I don't think so as a noun.
    • I don't know. I think another GA told me to hyphen them. I don't know which is correct or if both are acceptable.--EchetusXe 16:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • he changed clubs ===>>> changing clubs

Player[edit]

  • He was to spend the following season briefly involved in the first-team at Deepdale, making his debut under caretaker-manager Sam Allardyce. However he had a brief loan spell with Lincoln City and then was allowed to join Chester City in December 1993.<<<=== This seems backwards with respect to the loan spell. How about something like: "He made his debut the following season at Deepdale under caretaker-manager Sam Allardyce. He was to spend the season briefly involved in the first-team, but instead had a brief loan spell with Lincoln City and then was allowed to join Chester City in December 1993."
  • Flitcroft was to make eight appearances <<<=== I don't think this is the correct tense. Why not just "Flitcroft made eight appearances"?
  • the "Seals" would last just one season ===>>> the "Seals" lasted just one season (similar thing as above. no need for conditional if it happened)
  • and left the Deva Stadium <<<=== start a new sentence
  • overall in all competitions ===>>> in all competitions (redundant)
  • However he lost his first-team place at the start of the 2001–02 campaign ===>>> He lost his first-team place at the start of the 2001–02 campaign, however,
  • He started 21 league games ===>>> Flitcroft started 21 league games (unclear "He" based on previous sentence)
  • Flitcroft joined Bury on non-contract terms <<<=== What does non-contract terms imply? (He didn't have a contract? What are the implications of that?)
    • It means they are free to leave the club at any time. I assume they still get paid by the week. I found that he signed a contract three months later.--EchetusXe 16:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • it was "a massive wrench" to leave the professional game <<<=== I think you should state that this was his last professional team before making this statement. It seems a bit out of nowhere.
  • his debut for the "Tigers" in the FA Trophy on 28 November 2016 <<<=== date is wrong
  • But Flitcroft returned to Rochdale ===>>> Flitcroft returned to Rochdale

Playing style[edit]

  • Is it possible to expand? (I assume not, but just checking.)
    • Nah, really couldn't find anything. He doesn't seem to have stood out much as a player.--EchetusXe 16:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Manager[edit]

  • after following manager ===>>> , following manager
  • by Birmingham City <<<=== Should it be "to Birmingham City"?

Managing style[edit]

  • Okay.

Personal[edit]

  • Same comment as in the lead.
  • Maybe also specify here if it is his only sibling.
    • Well well, turns out he also had a younger brother who played football, so that was good to find. He also has a sister called Kelly but I don't know if that's worth including.--EchetusXe 16:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overall[edit]

  • No unnecessary ALL CAPS in the references unless it's actually an abbreviation. I see five (TOO, PROFILE, DAVID FLITCROFT, and BREAKING twice).
  • The way the stadiums are introduced, maybe it could be made clearer that they those are the clubs' home grounds. I don't think it's always so obvious.

Looks pretty good! Placing on hold. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 16:36, 10 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • checkY Article is a GA, nominated in time (article became GA on 9 January, nominated 10 January), and article is within policy (including matching the suggested article layout for footballers)
  • checkY Hook is short enough, interesting, in the article, and well cited. I changed the hook link [[director of football]] to [[Sporting director|director of football]] to comply with MOS:DYKPIPE
  • checkY QPQ done
  • Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]