Talk:Cypress Grove (musician)

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: 3family6 (talk · contribs) 15:50, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The lead is too short, and the writing style too informal. Overall, the article is not nearly long enough. Also, The Jeffrey Lee Pierce Session Project should not be bolded unless there is a redirect by that name to this article.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Much of the biographical information about Grove, as well as his early music career, is not discussed in any of the references given, and has no citations. This MUST be cleared up, as Grove is a living person and thus all statements need to be attributed to reliable sources. Please read WP:BLP. I also have some issues with two sources: "From the Archives" - what makes this a reliable source for a living person? Is it published through a third-party, and is it subject to editorial oversight for accuracy? The second source I have a problem with is the About.com source. Some About.com writers are reliable, but the reliability of Ryan Cooper is undetermined (see the About.com Critics Table for more information). That source should be removed.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The article is focused on the subject topic, but does not have enough information or context on the artist.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
This article was clearly written by a fan of the artist. I have no problem with the author(s) liking this artist, but the article needs to present the topic neutrally. If the artist is critically acclaimed, it is fine to mention that, and even write in a favorable style, but it should be within the context of analysis by third-party critics, not analysis by the article author themselves.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Article is very stable, mostly single-author.
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
The images were uploaded by the photographer, so no problems there. They are informative to the article.
Overall: The article has significant problems regarding its length, scope, and, most importantly, tone and referencing. The referencing issue in particular needs to be addressed right away. Regretfully, I have to fail this article. If the issues that I've brought up are addressed, I encourage the nominator to re-submit the article for review. See articles such as Eddie Costa, Rodney Atkins, or Eminem for examples of good articles about musicians. Please also familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Good luck.--¿3family6 _contribs 19:06, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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