Talk:Cultural depictions of Philip II of Spain

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please add sources to article[edit]

thank youOo7565 (talk) 20:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Qp10qp has added one source. I think others will be coming along shortly. I suspect the prod will fail, and I should remove it myself, but want to see if there is more to Philip than just this. Category:Representations of people in popular culture gives an idea of the range of approaches taken, and the range in quality of articles like this. Carcharoth (talk) 20:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it will all be sourced (and altered where necessary) at my usual slow pace. I'm trying to rationalise a biography article or two at the moment. Thanks for your comment, Carcharoth; do take a look at my latest cuts from James I of England (placed on talk). Sheesh! Philip II of Spain rates as the most atrocious article for a major monarch that I've seen on Wikipedia: the present spin-off article (if it survives) is a first step towards doing something about that, because this material doesn't belong in the biography. qp10qp (talk) 21:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed play and novel[edit]

I removed the following because I can't find any notable confirmation of this play's significance or, in particular, the significance of Philip II in it. If anyone can do so, please restore it with a good citation. qp10qp (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the following for the same reason. The book has only been out since July and I can't find any quality press reviews or criticism on it, nor any confirmation of the plotline from an objective, reliable source. I've put the book's article up for deletion on that basis, too. Again, please restore this entry with a citation if you can. qp10qp (talk) 23:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • In Suzannah Dunn's The Queen's Sorrow, Rafael, a member of Philip's entourage, describes how it is the Spanish prince's denial of love that leads to Mary Tudor's ever more brutal measures towards her own people.