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Control orders arguably breach human rights, infringe on civil liberties, fall foul of the ECHR, create mistrust of the government, particularly from the Muslim community, and create resentment of British society in the Muslim community in Britain. Balfron 18:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Increased volume[edit]

The article needs more info adding to it:

  • ECHR issues
  • Judicial controls
  • Political views

Juice07 21:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ASBO and injunction[edit]

How is a control order different from ASBO and Injunction?Anwar (talk) 10:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A control order is different from an ASBO because ASBO's are imposed by a magistrate in the Magistrates Courts, whereas a non-derogating control order can be imposed by the Home Secretary, without any conviction for any offences having been brought. A non-derogating needs the approval of a Court after 7 days, but is not issued by the Court as the result of legal proceedings. An injunction differs from a control order again because it can only be ordered by a court. Juice07 (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Links to quarterly reports on control orders[edit]

Quarterly Reports on Control Orders
Year Quarter 1 Quarter 2 Quarter 3 Quarter 4
2005 11 Mar 05 - 11 Jun 05 11 Jun 05 - 10 Sep 05 11 Sep 05 - 11 Dec 05
2006 11 Dec 05 - 10 Mar 06 11 Mar 06 - 11 Jun 06 11 Jun 06 - 11 Sep 06 11 Sep 06 - 11 Dec 06
2007 11 Dec 06 - 10 Mar 07 11 Mar 07 - 11 Jun 07 11 Jun 07 - 10 Sep 07 11 Sep 07 - 10 Dec 07
2008 11 Dec 07 - 10 Mar 08 11 Mar 08 - 11 Jun 08 11 Jun 08 - 10 Sep 08 11 Sep 08 - 10 Dec 08
2009 11 Dec 08 - 10 Mar 09 11 Mar 09 - 11 Jun 09 11 Jun 09 - 10 Sep 09 11 Sep 09 - 10 Dec 09
2010 11 Dec 09 - 10 Mar 10 11 Mar 10 - 11 Jun 10

Many, but not all of the above are cited in the article.

The above may be useful for research, or could be adapted, perhaps with the addition of key statistics from each report, and then incorporated in the article. Richard Taylor (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics extracted from reports and added to table:[edit]

Quarterly Reports on Control Orders
Report No. Control Orders in Operation No. New No. Revoked No. on British Citizens
2005
11 Mar 05 - 11 Jun 05 11 11 0 ?
11 Jun 05 - 10 Sep 05 3 1 9 ?
11 Sep 05 - 11 Dec 05 8 5 0 ?
2006
11 Dec 05 - 10 Mar 06 11 3 0 3
11 Mar 06 - 11 Jun 06 14 3 0 5
11 Jun 06 - 11 Sep 06 15 9 0 6
11 Sep 06 - 11 Dec 06 16 1 0 7
2007
11 Dec 06 - 10 Mar 07 18 4 1 9
11 Mar 07 - 11 Jun 07 17 1 0 8
11 Jun 07 - 10 Sep 07 14 2 0 8
11 Sep 07 - 10 Dec 07 14 0 0 8
2008
11 Dec 07 - 10 Mar 08 11 2 1 +1 quashed 4
11 Mar 08 - 11 Jun 08 15 6 0 3
11 Jun 08 - 10 Sep 08 16 1 0 4
11 Sep 08 - 10 Dec 08 15 0? 0? 4
2009
11 Dec 08 - 10 Mar 09 17 2 0 6
11 Mar 09 - 11 Jun 09 20 5 1* 10
11 Jun 09 - 10 Sep 09 15 0 5 9
11 Sep 09 - 10 Dec 09 12 3 6 9
2010
11 Dec 09 - 10 Mar 10 11 1 2 10
11 Mar 10 - 11 Jun 10 12 2 1 10
  • See source report for precise details.

Renewals are not counted as new control orders. Expirations are not mentioned in the above table. Those revoked and replaced with different conditions are not counted.

While not tabulated above, the number of modifications of orders rose substantially during the operation of the act, with 125 modifications of control orders in the period 11 June 2009 to 10 September 2009, even though only 15 orders were in-force at the end of the period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Taylor (talk • contribs) 19:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poor article[edit]

Maybe I am missing something (the structure of the article is not very clear), but some of the most important information seems to be missing:

  • WHO imposes a control order - a government authority, a court (which one), ...?
  • What evidence needs to be presented? Who examines the evidence?
  • What are the limited rights of appeal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.76.146.141 (talk) 20:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Poor article redux[edit]

Pointts raised above have gone unanswered. Are those controlled merely suspects, or has guilt been proved? What effect do these orders have on Human Rights, presumption of innocence? Crawiki (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Australian control orders[edit]

How is the statement in the lead section that "Control orders were also included in the Australian Anti-Terrorism Act 2005." relevant to this article? There is no explanation of the Australian legislation in the body of the article and there appears to be a separate Wikipedia article about them, so a link should only appear in the See also section. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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