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Featured articleConfirmed Dead is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Good topic starConfirmed Dead is part of the Lost (season 4) series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on February 7, 2013.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 4, 2008Good article nomineeListed
April 28, 2008Featured article candidatePromoted
August 1, 2008Featured topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 21, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that fake names and scenes were given to actors auditioning for roles in the upcoming episode titled "Confirmed Dead" of the fourth season of ABC's television series Lost to limit the leak of spoilers?
Current status: Featured article

Redirection[edit]

All information I added to this page was from IMDb (which is an official source??). But deletion of contributions is just typical for the English Wikipedia anyway. - Mark Jensen (talk) 16:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb is actually not a reliable source. If you wait a few days, ABC will confirm this and the article will be restored. If we add stuff without sources, we head down a slippery slope. –thedemonhog talk • edits 23:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It has been confirmed so I restored, rewrote and expanded. –thedemonhog talk • edits 00:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The link to Charlotte Lewis is to the English actress, not the Lost character. It needs to be the link to Charlotte Staples Lewis, which is a wikipedia page. I'd change it myself, mut I don't know how. Tessaroithmost (talk) 05:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, it was changed. –thedemonhog talk • edits 16:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fake plane[edit]

Shouldn't it be noted that the plane they found was not at all Oceanic 815? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.236.236.147 (talk) 15:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We don't know how the plot is panning out here, putting in that the plane is fake might be a misnomer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.94.238 (talk) 16:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Man on boat?[edit]

Could anyone explain this to me? I know that little is known from this episode, but what does Ben mean by having a Man on the Boat? Why would that cause for the search on Ben? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.218.162.183 (talk) 14:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, this was cleared up in later episodes. –thedemonhog talk • edits 16:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good article review[edit]

This is an excellent article. It is well written, the plot section is succinct, and there is lots of interesting real world information. I just have some nitpicks before making it a Good Article. I'll put the nomination on hold for seven days so these issues can be addressed.

  • The image Image:Lost-ConfirmedDead.jpg needs a non-free use rationale.
  • In the plot section -- "Daniel Faraday (Jeremy Davies) is shown in care" -- what is he in care of?
  • "Frank, an alcoholic who is originally scheduled to fly" -- should that be "was originally scheduled"?
  • At the start of the second plot paragraph, I think it would be helpful to specify that the events in that paragraph are in the episode's "present day" (fall 2004)
  • Production section -- "Leung can be quoted" -- should that be "Leung was quoted"?
  • "Leung believed that he was trying out for the part of "brilliant mathematician" "Russell"." is sourced to 'Lost': Five Fresh Faces but the source doesn't have that information. Can you find a different source?
  • "Lost's writer-producers compared Mader to "a young Nicole Kidman" is sourced to [1], but the source does not include this information. You can use the source 'Lost': Five Fresh Faces instead.
  • "Charlotte's full name is Charlotte Staples Lewis, which is an homage to the author C.S. Lewis, best known for The Chronicles of Narnia and various books about Christianity. Lewis was one of Mader's favorite authors as a child and found it "wicked" and "cool" for her character to be named after him" is sourced to [2] but that article does not have this information. It needs a different source.

That's it! Please let me know if I can clarify anything. Bláthnaid 18:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I cannot believe that I missed the non-free use rationale. All concerns have been addressed, except for the one about Frank, which I am leaving because fiction is always in the present tense. I considered removing "Confirmed Dead" from the GAN list because it sat for two weeks before anyone reviewed it, but I am glad that I waited. Thanks, –thedemonhog talk • edits 00:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for addressing the concerns so quickly. Frank and the present tense is fine (to be honest, I get confused about what is past and present on Lost). The article definitely passes the GA criteria now, and IMO is well on its way to becoming a featured article. Bláthnaid 15:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Notability[edit]

Complaints about this article being "Today's Featured Article" are off-topic. As it says above, "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Confirmed Dead article". If you want to contribute to discussions about what should be selected as the TFA, or to suggest new rules that some FAs should be ineligible to appear as TFAs because they lack "inherent importance or apparent worth at all", please go to WP:TFAR and its talk page. BencherliteTalk 17:50, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

How can such a meagre subject become article of the day? It would be one thing if the entry for the entire show was article of the day, but episode 2 of season 4? There should surely be some balances in place to stop something of no notability to anyone, no inherent importance or apparent worth at all getting on the front page. This is the sort of thing that should make any wikipedia editor strongly evaluate how they spend their time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.227.100 (talk) 00:35, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. There are many articles that could have been selected for Featured Article and this one is barely notable to even merit an article. Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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