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Partial reverts[edit]

I have partly reverted the redirecting of the columbite and tantalite group minerals. Columbite-Fe (ferrocolumbite) & Columbite-Mg) are both International Mineralogical Association recognized mienrals as are the tantalite group minerals. --Kevmin (talk) 11:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Usage[edit]

some words on it's Usage and properties in usages perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.43.102 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 29 August 2009

As stated in the first paragraph, it is used as an ore of niobium and tantalum. What other uses were you thinking about? For uses of those two elements - see their respective articles. Vsmith (talk) 20:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new section?: Columbite In Fiction[edit]

I won't inflict this on the actual page, but leave it up to someone else to include it if it seems not-inappropriate:

'In the James Bond novel Moonraker, Columbite is the name of a high-tech steel alloy used to make the casing of the eponymous missile.'
Cheesusfreak (talk) 00:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think it is the name of an alloy in the book, just a component of the alloy; isn’t it a mineral, just as in reality, in which Drax (the villain) has cornered the market, securing his wealth, and the ability to manufacture an alloy for use in his rocket project. It would be interesting to know if the properties of columbite actully are those it is given by Fleming in the book - is it used in jet and rocket engines? Jock123 (talk) 17:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting anachronistic reports of the discovery of Columbite and Niobium[edit]

As explained below, I intend to change the following two sentences (with respective references) from:

The occurrence of columbite in the United States was made known from a specimen sent by Governor John Winthrop of Connecticut to Hans Sloane, President of the Royal Society of Great Britain.^[1]

In 1801 Charles Hatchett discovered the element niobium in columbite, which he named columbium after Columbia, a historical and poetic name for the USA.^[2]

^ Gilman, D. C.; Peck, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbite" . New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead.
^ Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Columbite" . Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.

to:

The occurrence of columbite in the United States was made known from a specimen presumably stemming from John Winthrop (1606-1676), first colonial Governor of Connecticut and avid mineral collector. Amidst 600 other samples, it was donated by his namesake and grandson, John Winthrop (1681-1747) to Hans Sloane, President of the Royal Society of Great Britain, upon becoming a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1737.^[1]

In 1801 Charles Hatchett discovered the element niobium in this specimen^[2], which he named columbium after Columbia, a historical and poetic name for the USA.^[3]

^ Winthrop, John (1844). Silliman, Benjamin (ed.). "Art. V. Selections from an Ancient Catalogue of objects of Natural History, formed in New England more than one hundred years ago". The Amer. J. Science and Arts 47. New Haven: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 282. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... (p.282:) Mr. Winthrop was grandson of the first governor of Connecticut, great grandson of the first governor of Massachussetts ... (p.290:) A black mineral ... Is this the Columbite? ... it appeared that it had been sent ... to Sir Hans Sloane, by Mr. Winthrop of Massachussetts. ...'
^ Griffith, William P.; Morris, Peter J.T. (22 September 2003). "Charles Hatchett FRS (1765–1847), Chemist and Discoverer of Niobium" (PDF). The Annals of Philosophy. New Series. July to December 1824. London: The Royal Society Publishing. p. 359. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... In 1800–01, while he was arranging some minerals at the British Museum in Bloomsbury, he became particularly interested in a specimen which was described in Sir Hans Sloane's catalogue of the 'Metalls', no. 2029 from his collection, as 'a very heavy black stone with golden streaks ... from Nautneague. From Mr. Winthrop' ... The donor was probably John Winthrop (1681–1747), a great-grandson of the founder of Massachusetts Bay colony. When Winthrop was elected FRS in 1734 he gave Sir Hans Sloane, then President of the Society, a collection of about 600 minerals. ...'
^ Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Columbite" . Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.

Reason:

The donation of the mineral specimen to John Sloane clearly could not be made by Gov. John Winthrop the Younger himself, as Sloane (1660-1753) was just 16 by the time of the Governor's death, and only 50+ years later became president of the Royal Society. This anachronism apparently evolved in 1824^[1] and has haunted through the literature via NIE 1905^[2] to this century (including this WP article), even if already corrected in 1844 (cf. citation above).

^ Torry, John (1824). "Article IX. An Account of the Columbite of Haddam (Connecticut)". The Annals of Philosophy. New Series. July to December 1824. London: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 359. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... the only North American specimen of columbite known in North America until lately, was the original one in the British Museum ... . It is said to have been sent many years since by the late Governor Winthrop, of Connecticut, to Sir Hans Sloane, then President of the Royal Society; after whose death it was deposited in the Museum, where it still resides. ...'
^ Gilman, D. C.; Peck, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbite" . New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead.

Any comments welcome. --HReuter (talk) 02:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Correct name[edit]

The correct name is columbite-(Fe), to distinguish from columbite-(Mn) and columbite-(Mg). Eudialytos (talk) 17:39, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki Education assignment: ERTH 4303 Resources of the Earth[edit]

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Environment impact and formation section[edit]

Initially added environmental impact and formation section but edited according to comment. Eblokland (talk) 15:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gilman, D. C.; Peck, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbite" . New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead.

[2] Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Columbite" . Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.

[3] Winthrop, John (1844). Silliman, Benjamin (ed.). "Art. V. Selections from an Ancient Catalogue of objects of Natural History, formed in New England more than one hundred years ago". The Amer. J. Science and Arts 47. New Haven: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 282. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... (p.282:) Mr. Winthrop was grandson of the first governor of Connecticut, great grandson of the first governor of Massachussetts ... (p.290:) A black mineral ... Is this the Columbite? ... it appeared that it had been sent ... to Sir Hans Sloane, by Mr. Winthrop of Massachussetts. ...'

[4] Griffith, William P.; Morris, Peter J.T. (22 September 2003). "Charles Hatchett FRS (1765–1847), Chemist and Discoverer of Niobium" (PDF). The Annals of Philosophy. New Series. July to December 1824. London: The Royal Society Publishing. p. 359. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... In 1800–01, while he was arranging some minerals at the British Museum in Bloomsbury, he became particularly interested in a specimen which was described in Sir Hans Sloane's catalogue of the 'Metalls', no. 2029 from his collection, as 'a very heavy black stone with golden streaks ... from Nautneague. From Mr. Winthrop' ... The donor was probably John Winthrop (1681–1747), a great-grandson of the founder of Massachusetts Bay colony. When Winthrop was elected FRS in 1734 he gave Sir Hans Sloane, then President of the Society, a collection of about 600 minerals. ...'

[5] Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Columbite" . Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.

[6] Torry, John (1824). "Article IX. An Account of the Columbite of Haddam (Connecticut)". The Annals of Philosophy. New Series. July to December 1824. London: Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy. p. 359. Retrieved 12 February 2015. ... the only North American specimen of columbite known in North America until lately, was the original one in the British Museum ... . It is said to have been sent many years since by the late Governor Winthrop, of Connecticut, to Sir Hans Sloane, then President of the Royal Society; after whose death it was deposited in the Museum, where it still resides. ...'

[7] Gilman, D. C.; Peck, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbite" . New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.). New York: Dodd, Mead.

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